Bivol and Spence have a compatible resume

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  1. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Bivol: WBA champ, 13 bouts, best win is Barrera
    Spence: IBF champ, best win is Brook, 23 bouts.

    Spence is ranked P4P by both The Ring and ESPN but Bivol is not.

    Will that change after last night?
     
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  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Good information, the Rankings are biased in favor of certain fighters.
     
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  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Two of the best young fighters, I'm a fan of both.

    Bivol needs another couple of good wins to break into the P4P top ten.
     
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  4. PaulButlersMum

    PaulButlersMum COME ON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!! banned Full Member

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    Yeah it's the same if you compare Murat Gassiev and Keith Thurman. Most have Thurman in their P4P lists but not Gassiev! Dorticos,Lebedev and Wlodarcyzk are better wins than Porter and Garcia.
     
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  5. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Kovalev bangs em out
     
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  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Neither have taken a route that's unreasonable or without dignity.
     
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  7. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Barrera is not the equivalent of Brook.
     
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  8. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Best win for both fighters, you rank Brook over Barrera?
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Most rational people do, are you okay? You seem a little off since Wilder validated himself last night.:lol:
     
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  10. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    :biggrin: I've never rated Brook highly. You could say he edges Barrera because he actually held a belt.

    Bivol has 10 less bouts than Spence and accomplished just as much, very impressive.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No he edges Barrera because he has wins over Porter, Senchenko, Rabchenko, Bizier, Gavin, Dan, Jones, Hatton, Saldivia, N'Dou and lost two competitive fights against GGG and Spence due to eye injuries.

    Barrera has Smith Jr, who was injured, Valera, who Bivol already schooled, and Slava, who is easily the worst EE LHW, and lost by shutout/stoppage to Bivol and shutout to Ward.
     
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  12. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’d put Gassiev and Bivol over Thurman and Spence, resume and ability both. Brook at 147 after fighting at 160 I don’t count. That was just stupid.
     
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  13. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    You picked Smith Jr over Barrera, LMAO classic cst

    Brook's losses were not competitive, he got destroyed in both of them.

    Fact is Brook has Donut Dan, Kevin Busy and Frankie Gavin as his best seconadry wins, besides his best win in Porter.


    Valera, Karo Murat, Smith jr and Shabb are good wins, if you want to give Brook slight edge because he held a belt and beat Porter I'm ok with it but the difference is not as big as you think.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    LMAO, he almost KO'd him in the first round, LMAO, LMAO, shut the **** up.

    Brook debately won the first 6 rounds of the fight before his eye was injured and Smith Jr. suffered a broken jaw, without those injuries who knows how those matches would have played. But, but, but..... but nothing, TKO6. Don't waste your breath.
     
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  15. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    6 rounds? LOL he didn't win 6 rounds total in that fight, ok Adelaide Byrd.
    Your Brook fetish is off the charts.
     
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