Bivol Beterbiev not big enough outside of boxing fans?

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  1. REKX_

    REKX_ New Member banned Full Member

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    As a boxing fan, this fight is as big as it gets, in recent history and in boxing history.

    Outside of boxing, people are still talking about Anthony Joshua's recent fight and don't even know about Bivol or Beterbiev.

    Not sure if it's because it's Eastern European fighters or just American, British and Mexican fighters just have a bigger fan base and fans?

    But I'm glad Saudi are getting these fights on though, would have been an utter shame if this fight never happened. Or happened 5 years later as a money grab.

    The undisputed fight is one thing but it's also two great champions, in great form, highly skilled. The contrasting styles make it even more to look forward to.
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    No one in English speaking Canada knows who these guys are. I mean no one. I have lived in Vancouver and Toronto and boxing just isn't a big deal here. I don't know about Montreal since Beterbiev trains and lives there but in English speaking Canada, the only people who i know who follow boxing are UK immigrants and some other immigrant groups.

    So yes, its partially to do with them being Eastern Euro's but i also think boxing's popularity has greatly faded in America and Canada among casual fans. Rise of NBA/NFL, hockey and even UFC have overtaken boxing in popualrity in the North American market.

    UFC is the bar sport here. Every month, they put on a card and the bar is full of guys who want to watch.

    Boxing is still fairly big in UK, Mexico, Eastern Europe, increasingly so in Central Asia especially in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, to some degree in China and Japan, and also to some degree in Australia.

    But yes, i don't expect English speaking audiences in North America to know who these guys are. I am not sure if boxing's popularity can come back in US and Canada.
     
  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    From Montreal, nobody here knows who Artur is either. Jean Pascal and Adonis Stevenson were much more popular.
     
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  4. SquareUp

    SquareUp New Member Full Member

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    It's a shame really. But as a diehard boxing fan I really couldn't care less if the average person doesn't realize the magnitude of this fight. Don't cast pearls before swine imo
     
  5. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both could walk around the city I live in and probably not get noticed
     
  6. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Bivol has had an ok following since the Canelo fight, but this fight isn’t getting nearly as much recognition as it should. I kind of blame Beterbiev for not doing jack to promote himself outside the ring. Bivol has done all he could to get his name out there, but there’s really only so much you can do being a Russian with a dull personality and defensive boxing style.
     
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  7. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't care, I am a boxing fan and look forward to Saturday!
     
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  8. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This should sell 175k -200k PPVs
     
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  9. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    This.
     
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  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I care because without interest there is no money to make fights. But nothing to do about it, so I'll be watching for as long as they put it on TV.
     
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  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Both are great fighters and real men who don't play BS social media games all they care about is fighting. Bivol is more well known because of the Canelo fight and he has the Mayweather Canelo proxy support from the usuals. Beterbiev's promoters should have done a better job the guy is 18-0 with 18KO's his record speaks for itself.
     
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  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fight is well promoted here in the UK

    However, Beterbiev's AMERICAN promoter Top Rank has barely lifted a finger in promoting this fight. All their footage is old recycled stuff, there is no documentaries, no behind the scenes footage, no 24/7 style type of show etc etc etc


    It's like they don't even care. They did the same with Crawford too and when he freed himself from Arum he got himself a $20m payday against Spence. But he could have gotten it sooner or years later had he been with somelike Hearn etc.

    Americans say they are the biggest fight fans and best promoters but I don't believe that anymore.

    I hope Turki takes these people off the chessboard or reduces them to pawn status.
     
  13. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beterbiev is massive amongst the Muslim fans. The people who followed Khabib also follow Beterbiev too.
    GGG could barely speak English (Beterbiev at least tries) and got a huge push by HBO..

    Top Rank have barely tried. They have the most destructive fighter since Mike Tyson and have barely pushed their promotion of him. It's pathetic.
     
  14. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    Fantastic fighters, but they both sadly have very little marketability.
     
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  15. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why do you care ?

    It's one of the best fights of the decade, I don't want Jake Paul fans to watch it. They don't deserve it anyway.
     
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