Bivol vs Clenelo May 7th reportedly

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarvelousMarvinGolovkin, Feb 17, 2022.


  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No way, not even close. Both PBC guys extremely limited and predictable in comparison. You only have to look at their resumes to see why the BJS and Smith are a cut of them.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You were "trying to spew your opinion" when you said "Floyd completely dominated him and one judge had it as a draw" and when you said "Golovkin beat him twice and came out 0-1-1" and when you said "Austin Trout and Lara both appeared to have shaded him and were on the wrong side of a decision" and when you said "You're simply gonna have to dominate to have a chance at winning a decision as Canelo can't be knocked out (At MW or lower)" and when you said "If they fight, Canelo wins a competitive decision no matter how well Bivol performs."

    Anotherwords, your spewed opinion is that Canelo doesn't really win matches, judges just give him decisions just because. That's mad. As upset as you are at me for calling you out and telling you what really happened in those matches, that's the same way for me with you telling me what really didn't happen, against Floyd, GGG, Trout or Lara. So you "tried to spew your opinion" about those 5 Canelo matches, a wrong opinion, an opinion which is the same opinion that continuously gets regurgitated on here ad nauseam. If you or other posters who constantly push this Canelo detracting / judge conspiracy agenda weren't so insecure about that being the case, it wouldn't be said over and over again to the extent it is. This is a concerted effort to marginalize Canelo's accomplishmnts and how great he is as a fighter. If you have the right to go on here and pretend like what he's achieved didn't really happen because of the "judges" somehow being in on some conspiracy and not scoring the match and just automatically scoring every fight Canelo is in to Canelo (which is mad by the way) I have the right to call you out and tell you or anyone else how wrong they are.
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Live in reality at least. Yes we know you are partial to EE fighters but this rubbish! A 3rd fight between Santos Saul Alvarez Barragan and Lil G will be as competitive as a gang ****.
     
  4. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :eek:
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First of all, Canelo is better than Floyd ever was. He has a lot more wins than Floyd, he has a lot more knockouts than Floyd, he's a bigger draw than Floyd ever was. Canelo set the USA indoor Attendance record, Floyd never sold out a stadium. Canelo is far more dangerous as a fighter than Floyd ever was. Floyd was known for having brittle hands, with limited KO power. Canelo is a devastating KO artist. That's just the tip of the iceberg when comparing them.

    The big problem is that even with Floyd having every possible advantage against Canelo, including a crippling catchweight, Canelo still took him to his absolute limit, busted Floyd up. Floyd was never the same after his war with Canelo, and all you have to do to confirm that is watch the Fight Hype video he posted about how sore and beat up he was afterwards, and look at his next fight against Maidana to see how much damage Canelo inflicted on Floyd, both mentally and physically.

    If you can't see that, if you're too blinded by your idolization of Floyd, that's your problem. Floyd barely beat Canelo, Canelo was 2 swing rounds away from a majority draw on Moretti's card. That didn't happen due to some judging conspiracy, that happened because the judges saw a very even match that Floyd barely eeked out in controversy. A weakened, weight drained Canelo did that to Floyd, imagine what a full strength Canelo would do to Floyd. He would maim him.
     
  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Sorry BJS and Smith are pieces of **** who waved the white flag when Canelo set on them. Whereas win or lose we know both Benaivides and Charlo will be bringing it. Caleb Plant put up a much better fight than both Brits who frankly disgraced themselves and us.
     
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  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    God you are a fool!I am saving your post as the perfect example of a confused. Even Canelo does not claim it was a close fight and admits he lost to the better man and that he learned a lot. Frankly Cotto gave Floyd a much tougher fight.

    Floyd has made more money and sold more PPVs than Canelo will ever sell. The only reason Canelo got so many into a stadium is because Floyd fights in Las Vegas the global capital city of boxing. When Floyd fights he shakes the economy of Vegas.
     
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BJS and Smith won more rounds Canelo than plant didn and the lesser quality boxers than him in Charlo and Benevidez wouldn't even win single round off Canelo in my opinion.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo doesn't claim it was a close fight? Canelo has never gone into detail about how close he thought it was. He did say that he doesn't even consider it a loss, but a learning experience. He hasn't said he lost to "the better man" you just made that line up.

    A lot of what Canelo said back in those days before he started speaking english was mistranslated even by the official transators. Remember when he said "Mexicans don't **** around". No that's what the translator said, back in those days everyone just repeated someone elses poor translation of what Canelo said and pretended he said something else.
    Frankly you're wrong. Canelo was much closer on the cards than Cotto was. That also make little sense given how one-sided Canelo vs Cotto was.
    He made more $$ but Floyd wasn't as big of a draw. Canelo has the butts in seats factor. PPV numbers are misleading since many of Canelo's matches have been with DAZN which weren't PPVs. But Canelo's guaranteed $$ per fight while under the DAZN contract was very comparable to most of Floyd's paydays. Also Floyd's biggest PPV #'s were on Showtime, and his first big Showtime PPV numbers was against Canelo. Floyd needed Canelo or some other major star like Pacquiao to do massive PPV #s. If you really want to understand how comparable Floyd vs Canelo's PPV #s are, compare Floyd's PPV numbers vs Maidana to Canelo's PPV numbers vs Plant. Floyd vs Maidana did an estimated 900,000 PPV buys in total including international PPVs. Canelo vs Plant did over 800,000 PPV buys in US domestic buys alone. Maidana was a much bigger star than Plant was, so Canelo got about as many PPV buys Floyd did vs Maidana with a lesser known opponent.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Smith lost every round, BJS won 1 or 2 rounds at most if you are being generous Canelo allowed him to win. Plant won a lot of rounds especially the early ones and it was a real close fight until the stoppage in 11. Fights are not scored on nationality.
     
  11. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    GTFOH.
     
  12. fruitandnutcase

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    How can fighting Charlo -- whose best win is a middleweight on the small side, and who is ageing like milk -- be more of a legacy fight than beating an unbeaten light heavyweight, after which setting up a career-defining, undisputed clash against a current P4P top 10 18(18)-0 Beterbiev? Absolutely bonkers

    On the other hand I sort of like the Benavidez fight because it reminds me of the The One in which Mayweather crushed a future P4P great as a future investment in his legacy, and Canelo can do the same thing for Benavidez - but in the driver's seat this time. It also gives more shine to his super middleweight career as beating a weirdly gunshy Smith for both the WBA Super and WBC belt was a bit meh
     
  13. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Nothing to say just smiling to myself
     
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  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    He probably wanted to be a ballet dancer or figure skater growing up, but his pops forced him into boxing. That would explain a lot in terms of his meh attitude. Pops made the right choice.
     
  15. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Your claims are weak. Yildrim, Saunders, and Plant were are all pitty patters before they fought Canelo. Bivol has also been a pitty patter for a few years. Cherry picking pillow fist? Maybe, but that’s not the same as fixing a fight
     
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