Bivol's ATG status if...

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  1. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol is very good, not great yet.

    It's not just about the winning, it's also about how he can handle so many different styles and could he be dominant, like he was with Canelo.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ward muahahahahhahah. Are we talking about the same guy that clearly lost to Kovalev and then need to cheating in the rematch???
    Bivol skill wise is at the top at any list you can pull off.
     
  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Bivol is not LHW ATG 1, but he has the most valuable win in professional boxing right now which certainly makes him an ATG.
     
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  4. Levook

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    Absolutely! Going the rounds and having lots of fights is the most important skills-building activity fighters ever do, imo. Followed closely by fighting good comp as much as possible, regardless of the risk of losing. There is nothing that comes even close.

    Funny, you never hear tv fight commentators say things like "fighter A stays super busy fighting as often as he can, his trainers say they want to emulate the greats of the past, pointing out that it keeps fighter A very sharp; and the results are certainly evident by fighter A's performance in the ring tonite, Bob......because I thought he looked complete ass! Your impressions, Bob?

    Just doesn't happen much :biggrin:
     
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  5. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    How on earth does one win over a blown-up Canelo make him an ATG............................ ????
     
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  6. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Perhaps you both have different standards for 'ATG'? I know my standards are kinda wacky, but it's all just for fun. Serious fun.
     
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  7. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh and I completely agree, that is not ATG making status, in my book.

    But that's different from 'HOF', where people who aren't ATGs can comfortably reside somewhere. Funny, when I was a kid I always thought ATG = HOFer lol.
     
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  8. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Barrera, Chilemba, Pascal, Smith jr, is good balanced resume. Then the complete washing of the p4p top dog in Canelo. A fight Bivol won with ease is a nice start to great Light Heavy Run. If he wins on November 5th against Ramirez whom himself has a nice super middle resume Bivol has a chance to make a great run at light heavy. At 31 he should have another good 3 years. I would say he has excellent chance if he puts together 3-4 more big wins to be top 10 in division. It’s really hard to climb into the upper echelon of this division being that it is so deep with a rich history. Bivol doesn’t jump out at me as an all time great yet. But he has good opponents available that should he win he’ll have a pretty strong resume.
     
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  9. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol is great, but beterbiev will brutally stop him if they fight next year
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was P4P #1 and undefeated for 9 years against some of the best fighters out there.
     
  11. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HIs ATG is essentially NONE right now. Too many "if's" to even make a calculated guess.
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tough to get ahead of Charles, Moore, and maybe Fitzsimmons as the division's pioneer. I just love Michael Spinks. But still near the top.
     
  13. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Believe he will beat Ramirez. much better movement..will jab his head off and cruise to an easy win. If he fights Clenelo ten times....he will beat Clenelo .....10 times. time will tell.
     
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  14. EnglishButFrench

    EnglishButFrench New Member Full Member

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    Come on don't lie to your self.
     
  15. quest00

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    Thats a very fair assessment