Bivol's style is extremely aesthetically pleasing

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  1. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I fell asleep post-6 (and I was damn certain I woke up to see him lose, so imagine my surprise) but rewatching it made me certain it's one of the most cinematic bouts I got to witness live. Just a perfect Soviet dance in an attempt to wear down a murderous puncher who managed to win based on attrition in their precious clash.

    There are some caveats as to when the fight was made (and trilogy being three matches in a row isn't really a healthy thing in my book), but there is no denying that the 175 undisputed fight sparked my imagination like perhaps only Usyk-Fury and Joshua-Usyk did.
     
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  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I disagree. Usyk is much more offensively creative than Bivol is. The Russian isn't a great watch for ring artistry. Want to see breathtaking ring artistry? Watch Usyk or even a early 2000s Marco Antonio Barrera.
     
  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    This. Usyk is way more dynamic, has a stronger resolve and actually has some killer instinct unlike Bivol. Usyk had to hurt much bigger opponents in Fury and Joshua to get them off of him. Bivol just gambled on Beterbiev wearing himself out, if that that didn't happen he would have been ****ed. Usyk never would never take that kind of risk or let himself be put into that kind of predicament.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bivol is not an ATG and not one of the greatest technicians ever. People need to really calm the F down with this. He lost to a 39 year old man and beat a 40 year old man in a competitive fight because the old guy gassed out because he's old. And before people say Beterbiev was 40 and age doesn't matter, take this into consideration. Even Hopkins lost to Jermain ****ing Taylor at age 40. Bivol is a very good fighter, but hardly great.
     
  5. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree that people are getting too excited about Bivol.

    I think his lack of creativity caused him to lose the first fight and is what made the second fight against 40 year old Beterbiev so close.
     
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  6. Turnip mk3

    Turnip mk3 Active Member Full Member

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    Bivol is a joy to watch. A master
     
  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Bivol is a wonderful fighter and i am a fan. His resume of beating Canelo, Zurdo and Beterbiev is excellent. I have him as a top 4 p4p fighter today, maybe even top 3.

    That being said, among the elite fighters, he is offensively more limited. Usyk has the dynamic left hand which hurts much bigger men as well as creative combinations and excellent body punching.

    Crawford can switch stances effectively and land hard shots from either stance.

    Innoue has the best left hook in the game and outstanding body punching.

    Compared to Usyk, Crawford and Innoue, Bivol is offensively limited. He has a great jab, solid right cross and a pretty good left hook. Yet his combinations aren't exceptional (though they are solid), his body punching isn't great though he can throw a nice body punch here and there, and he doesn't exactly throw a lot of good uppercuts.

    An excellent technical boxer who has made the most of his talent. Not an extraordinarily talented fighter but terrific at maximizing his potential.
     
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  8. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    He is a very smooth operator , but I am not a big fan of his style. A bit basic ultimately. I agree with the above post.
     
  9. monaim

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    Bivol is the boxer whose style best embodies the saying "Less is more." He doesn't need anything else. When we play fighting games, there are people who beat their opponents simply with the basics. Bivol is that type. He is truly a master.
     
  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Bivol is decent but very fixed in his style which can't be lamented because the majority of boxers are fixed once they have turned pro. I do like to see a abit of American slickness but Berb hits so hard you don't want him to even hit your arms or graze you which bivols style avoids. If bivol hit just a little harder he would have battered Berb like he did canelo.

    The biggest load of tosh in boxing is the whole oh he's a different fighter now rubbish. Kind of like AJ when he beat Wallin they were all like "he's changed hes better" ridiculous.

    Usyk and Fury have shown supreme adaptability through their careers. Usyk made a lot of subtle but noticeable changes after moving to HW. I have no doubts that Usyk fighting the way he did 7 years ago wouldn't have survived Fury.
     
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  11. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    But you thought that old guy was going to beat him again??
     
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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yea and he would have if he didn't gas out. Bivols whole gameplan was AB is old so hopefully he gasses out. It worked. Good for him. Got the job done.
     
  13. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol judging of distance is exceptional.
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Remember it was just a week or so ago when people were trying to draw an equivalence between Bivol and Shakur. Well we just saw them fight on the same card and as everyone could see it was a false equivalence other than them both possessing elite skills and rarely scoring stoppages. But as I've said a thousand times Bivol is almost always fighting bigger, much or way bigger guys at 175 and the vast majority of his title defences have come against extremely durable or very durable fighters who've either never been stopped or even dropped or if they have it's very rarely and usually by savage or huge punchers

    Bivol was in with a high skill top 5 P4P elite savage punching monster who applies constant pressure and will literally beat the soul out of your body if you stand in front of him and it was a bitterly contested excellent and exciting fight with plenty of high level action and momentum shifts

    Shakur, who said he was the best fighter on the card, that he was the fighter who people were tuning in to watch, and that he was going to steal the show, was in an against a domestic level featherfisted electrician, that's a full time job electrician, with 4 KOs (KO 26% now) who took the fight on 3-4 days notice, didn't have a camp, wasn't in shape to go 12 rounds and Shakur stunk out the joint and it took him 9 rounds to get him out of there which he could only do via body shots on a very late notice sub who hasn't been able to condition his body properly to absorb body shots because he'd spent the last few months wiring circuit boards. It was a complete snooze fest.

    Not saying Shakur isn't really good or highly skilled but if you put him in with a same size Beterbiev, even a 40 y/o version, and Beterbiev would run him right out of the ring and stop him in brutal fashion, so who was the best fighter on the card really?
     
  15. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Saying a boxer waits on another boxer to tire out is one of the worst takes of a fight. Usyk took breaks against Fury just like Bivol did this fight. Bivol did a good job jabbing to the body and those shots don’t do a lot of damage but wear down guys in the long run, I think Usyk was doing the same agains Fury. He did take a break but that might be what got him to finish strong in the last rounds.
     
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