BJ Penn is better than GSP p4p

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  1. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    ....and nearly all other fights in fact.

    Lets get into this, GSP is the best Welterweight in the world and in fact I think would smash Penn in a 3rd fight.

    However,

    GSP doesnt fight against fighters 20-40lbs heavier and bigger than him as BJ has, and still held his own.

    GSP is a MUCH bigger man than Penn. In fact the size difference is comparable to that of Pac vs DLH, except Penn wasnt facing an old shot hero, he was facing a prime ATG in GSP. GSP would probably beat Penn 7-8 times out of time but that doesnt dispute the fact that Penn won the first fight IMO and even if you think he didnt the fact that it was close enough to dispute means that Penn fought a great fight against a much bigger elite opponenet and that is amazing.

    Would GSP beat Silva - doubtful
    Would Silva beat Machida - doubtful
    Would Machida beat Fedor - doubtful

    Penn did beat GSP once, or came close depending on what you think, and thats truly amazing.



    PENN - best lightweight ever
    GSP - best welter ever
    SILVA - best middle ever
    MACHIDA - could possibly be best LHW ever
    fedor - best heavy ever


    the p4p greats ^


    But I believe Penn is up there at the top POUND FOR POUND.
     
    yesihavearm2, Oct 16, 2009
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  2. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wrong forum :good
     
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  3. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Ah ****, stupid tabbed browsing.

    That and the pub :rofl

    Admin please move to MMA thankyou
     
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  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    Take your gay porn somewhere else :good
     
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  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    Prime Joyce Gracie does em all.
     
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  6. rockandrollstar

    rockandrollstar Active Member Full Member

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    I was just thinking "I've never heard of any of these guys".

    Take your bummer sport elsewhere please

    ;)
     
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  7. Carnage

    Carnage KingFroch Full Member

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    Blasphemy, get it out of here!!!
     
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  8. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    BJ Penn and GSP would destroy Calzaghe, Froch and Hatton on the streets. :stir
     
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  9. rockandrollstar

    rockandrollstar Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah take and down an alley and bum them big style. Ooh errr...
     
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  10. Carnage

    Carnage KingFroch Full Member

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    This guys name is BJ Penn...:roll::roll:
     
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  11. TheDon

    TheDon KO Artist Full Member

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    Yes BJ Porn is better than Gay Sex Porn. At least i think thats what he said
     
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  12. hit me HARDER

    hit me HARDER Guest

    You lot do know GSP's Mum is from Bradford. Nora St. Pierre.

    It kinda belongs here.
     
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  13. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    "BJ Penn" would make the guy in your avatar his *****.
     
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  14. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hes not better than GSP p4p

    When he beat GSP GSP was nowhere near the fighter he is today

    BJ has fought bigger guys, but then GSP beat Alves, and would beat a lot of middleweights

    GSP is better p4p than ol' coconut head, but its close
     
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  15. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Penn's "victories" at higher weights come down to him beating Hughes. Big accomplishment sure, but it's one fight that has since been avenged. He fought Machinda in a very weird and boring match and then...what, Renzo Gracie? He's certainly ambitious, but who has he actually BEATEN at higher weights? He's never had to earn his title shots at welter, so we've never seen him campaign against guys like Fitch or Alves or Kos the way GSP has.

    And no, he did not beat GSP in their first fight. Whether or not you think what happened to GSP's eye was from a poke or whatever, Penn did break his nose with that uppercut, and that's probably enough to give him the first round. If you watch it though, GSP lands quite a bit more with punches and leg kicks, so it's not the blow out round people make it out to be. After that, Penn does nothing to take either of the next two rounds. It's not anywhere close to the totally dominant performance that GSP put on him in their second fight, but he got the takedowns and threw the ground and pound and Penn didn't. I don't see how anyone can score either of the second two rounds for Penn unless they speak really slowly, have a great tan and are named Penn.
     
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