Saying BJJ is played out is tantamount to saying that punching is played out. In combat there are several ranges: boxing, kicking, wrestling, trapping, and grappling. Jiujitsu isn't just a part of groundfighting - jiujitsu IS groundfighting. As long as there are fights jiujitsu will be used and the jiujitsuan are the ones that will utilize it best.
Admittedly I looked past Judo because they're similar disciplines and MMA athletes usually crosstrain both. As far my understanding goes, Judo is more focused on attacking and defending holds, throws and takedowns where BJJ fighters are significantly superior on the ground where attacking and escaping submissions are game. BJJ is more vast in submissions and technique than Judo and BJJ fighters are more capable from fighting on their back. Judos strengths are obviously take downs and throws, their athletes tend to be larger and stronger but have a harder time moving on the ground. Machida v Sokoudjou would be a decent example of that.
I'd actually say that the Edgar/Penn matches were a much stronger arguement agenst the effectiveness of boxing alone than they were for it. Even if you ignore that BJ wouldnt have been able to keep the fight standing without his background in BJJ his focus on trying to outbox Edgar clearly failed. One man looking to win a fight with boxing and takedown defence lost to another man looking to win a fight with boxing, kickboxing and wrestling. Still I do think KillSomething makes some good points, BJJ's devolpment does seem to be bias towards a more controled enviroment allowing for the saker application of complex techniques. You could argue that judo has also moved in a sporting direction in recent decades though. Combat Sambo seems like the ideal middle ground to me, still heavly focused on a real enviroment but allows for alot of sparing aswell.
Is BJJ hard as **** to watch? Yes... Is BJJ homosexual? Yes... Is BJJ what you do when you're scared to get hit at all costs? Yes... Is BJJ what's necessary when you want to sacrafice dignity because you're scared to fight like a man? Yes... Is BJJ basically the same thing is kickin someone in the nuts or grabbin their dick cuz you can't fight for real? Yes... But is it played out? Not on here, the gay homosexual population is BIG.
You have to be a real warrior to box. There is nowhere to run. You can't hold on like a *****. You gotta go in there and sometimes you get busted up. It ain't play fightin, where you pull a mother ****ers dick real hard to make em stop. You gotta fight like a man. That's why you don't see that many people in boxing rings, cuz they can't take gettin hit. They gotta roll around on the ground like a gay homosexual. That **** might be effective, but you gotta sacrafice diginity to do it. You can deny this **** all you want, but it's true. You got deal with the truth sometimes.
Dude chill out,if everybody are homosexuals why are you here? seems like you cant get enough of the homosexuality and keep coming back.
:happy Right. More specifically, Judo and BJJ are the same--the same art, one school of which focuses more on getting the opponent to the ground and the other which focuses more on what to do when you get taken to the ground. The techniques of each art are completely contained within the other, though emphasized to greater or lesser degrees. BJJ is concerned mainly with fighting off one's back, whereas judo is concerned with staying on your feet, and either winning the fight quickly or escaping when you go down. Judo is more played by ear, where the submissions don't really have complex steps to set up. You take what's available because you have very limited time to set up a submission. BJJ is more focused on technical aspects of fighting on the ground,. BJJ is inductive--the training is step-by-step, and you learn the actual techniques, drilling them over and over. Judo is deductive--you learn the goals and principles and bend the techniques to get you to the desired endstate. (It may actually be the other way around with inductive/deductive...it's been a few years since my last philosophy class lol) I prefer Judo as a self defense art. Most fights do in fact go to the ground, but very few fights START from the ground. Your goal in a fight shouldn't be to take the opponent down so you can win, it should be simply to win. By emphasizing the takedowns and using them as weapons, Judo students become VERY difficult to take down. In a clinch, they're hard to dominate. Furthermore, they're adept at using a throw to HURT you, not just take you down. The goal is to have your opponent on the ground with you standing over him--the most dominant position to be in. Furthermore, should you go to the ground, you're trained to look for a quick finish or escape. You haven't got time for any complicated setups. You want to be on your feet, with the option of finishing things quickly should you go down. For a self-defense situation where anything is possible, I prefer judo. You can end the fight while standing. You take minimal punishment. You can dominate on the ground, and quickly. In MMA, the high-level complexity of BJJ is probably more effective, since you have all the time in the world. BJJ is regarded as 'the most effective' primarily because few people are familiar with judo, but also because the vast majority of casual MMA fans do not see the disconnect between cagefighting and fighting.
il make this real simple. bjj is what happens when instead of going for the jaw you go to choke your opponent or rip their limbs off. it aint gay. it aint *****. its a system that in real life would choke kill or mutilate every time. the day i see a bjj expert go for a dry hump or try to put his dick in someones mouth is the day i call it gay. untill then all im seing is guys breaking dudes limbs or choking them out.
furthermore there is a lot more bjj/strikers than there are bjj/wrestlers. it goes with striking well. so the idea these guys cant punch is played out.
