BJS Nasal Spray, Canelo Beef, what's next?

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  1. ipitythefool

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    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did he really? I always thought that seemed like a way to prove his innocence if he was innocent, but I didn't think they were doing that so I thought he seemed guilty. Now I'm not so sure if true
     
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    Not if Tony Bellew has anything to say about it!
     
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    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Go on, avoid this post like you have the last 3 times I have pressed the issue.

    You ready to talk about it yet @IsaL ?

    Canelo did take the hair follicle test, but unfortunately it proves absolutely nothing. You can't use hair follicle tests for Clenbuterol, as it is inconsistent. Variables such as how the drug was administered, what coloured hair you have and the type of drug you have used are all dependant on the result.

    One person can provide 5 results, on the same day, with the same amount in their system, but provide 5 very different results. From those 5 different results, you can then pick and choose what samples to provide.

    In Canelo's case, he could have failed 7/10 samples, and only provided the weakest result of all.

    Unfortunately @IsaL doesn't understand how steroid usage or testing works, so ignore the smoke screens!
     
  5. IsaL

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    Lol, your posting things I've discussed with much more intellectually superior Canelo haters than you.

    We understand and acknowledge that the findings in a HFT may not always be consistent and that there may even be occasions when nothing is detected.

    I haven't argued that Canelo is 100% cleared, I have however argued that taking a HFT is a big ****ing deal.

    What you need to accept and understand is that a HFT still has a high probability of detecting something. The values may not be consistent and may vary from test to test, but according to what I've read it will usually detect clenbeturol for up to a year.

    Now if Canelo was infact a PED user, why would he take that huge risk of being exposed as certified cheat when he was under no obligation to take that type of test.

    Again, I'm not saying that test alone clears him, but it sure ****ing shows he was not afraid to take it.

    You add the FACT that the Lab director stated that the findings were consistent with tainted meat consumption, and you add that fact that he's never tested dirty in his life prior to Feb 17 and Feb 20, that he was living in Mexico when he was contaminated.

    Also consider he enrolled in VADAs most stringent testing program right afterwards, and now more recently that he seemed stronger and with more stamina in his rematch with GGG, SURELY if anyone ever deserved the benefit of the doubt, its Canelo. Tell me, what fighter has done so much to prove their innocence?

    @rapscalion

    Canelo is a fighter Who did everything he could to prove he is clean and he looked much better this time around.

    I give Canelo the benefit of the doubt.
     
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