Black fighters vs Latino fighters??? (historically)

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  1. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most of these rivals, one or the other are past there primes, No one will convice me, that was a prime Alexis Arguello in there, The same goes with Kid Gavilan and Robinson.
     
  2. Gandul

    Gandul Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think that black boxers are better than latinos. I mean, you mentioned for example that Trinidad had B-HOP and Winky but the fact is that Winky also had Vargas and Trinidad beated David Reid, Joppy, etc...

    The fact is that styles make fights and fighters that are on their prime will most likely perform a lot better than others that are not. To me it doesn't really matter if a guy it's black or latino. Everybody has the same chance of beating each other.
     
  3. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Tim Austin vs Rafael Marquez comes to mind. It was a great fight with a great ending. Although, I was a big fan of Austin at the time, it was a great comeback by Marquez.
     
  4. marzblkman

    marzblkman Active Member Full Member

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    I'm glad this thread didn't turn into some race war that I suspected it would.

    There are stereotypes being stated and I'll name a couple fighters that defy it.

    One of the greatest defensive fighters I've ever seen is Wilfred Benitez. If the author (who states that he's Puerto Rican) has never heard of him or seen him, I highly recommend you see him fight. He was unreal. He won the championship at 17 friggin years old. His slipping ability was unreal.

    Did Whitaker have a latino counterpart????

    Ah yeah, he had Chavez who he clearly beat and that fight is a classic example of the "stereotypical traits" of each race although Whitaker is pretty much the epitome of defense. You can also see his fight late in his career with Oscar Dela Hoya.

    Btw, Floyd easily beats Cotto because Floyd has beaten every type of fighter from fast, to strong, to tall, to bigger. When Cotto was at 140, he was friggin damn near a middleweight and still getting rocked by the Corley's and Torress of the world.

    Back to th topic at hand. I'm thinking off the top Tommy Hearns for example pretty much had problems with "Black" slugger types. He pretty much schooled most of the "Latins" that he faced (Roldan, Duran, Cuevas).

    Personally speaking, I like well rounded boxers. I can't really think of save for Cotto (and he's still defensively average to me) many Latin fighters who's style isn't heavily weigh on one side (puncher, slugger).
     
  5. Thread Stealer

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    Oh, I wish Marvin Hagler and Carlos Monzon would have fought.
     
  6. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This thread doesn't even make any sense. Let's start by saying that LATINO is not a race. Hispanic is not a race either. LAtino is every person who main language is derivated from latin. Like Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, etc.....
    Compare Latinos to "BLACKS" is completely ridiculous. Since you can be latino and black at the same time.
    I am hispanic. And I am a firm believer blacks dont have any physical advantage when compared to whites or anyone else. They just dedicate themselves more to physical activities. But they are also at greater risk for High Blood pressure, Heart attacks and strokes.
    But I could be wrong. Lets say blacks are physically stronger. WHO DO YOU THINK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT????? WHITE MEN!!!! And I have as much white blood in me as I have black blood.
    But remember something. During slavery times. White men wanted strong workers. Weaker blacks didn't even survive the trip most of the times. And many were killed in America. So only the stronger with better genes reproduced. Thats basically the same thing that ******* Hitler tried to do with the white race.
    Anyway, I have a little of everything in my DNA. I when talking about people I am color blind. NEver cared about a person color.
     
  7. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They are lot of big puertorricans thats why they had won a champioship in any categories. mexican well they are proven to be a small race, but they are exeptions.
     
  8. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dude, are you kidding me. relax man. i never said that black people had physical advantages over latinos. i said they fight differently.

    to the guy who asked if I heard of Benitez, the answer is yes. But like i said, i'm only 27 and benitez was before my time. i've heard great things about him, but havent seen him. i'm aware that there are exceptions to every rule.
     
  9. pit

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    If this post is not racial then why post it ..?? spark + Gas = HOT **** .. Id be surprised if this post goes well.
     
  10. drama

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    TO be honest this makes no sense! Latino or Puerto rican is a nationality not a race! you can have black Latino/ PR people like Edison Miranda or Felix Trinidad then you can have white PR people like Duran! Hispanic/ Puerto Rican is not a race it is a nationality.
     
  11. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    drama and pit, you guys are really not understanding like the other guys did. i'm very much aware that there are "white/black" latinos. that is not the point. my point was the way latino fighters fight versus how african american fighters fight.
     
  12. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Duran doesn't look like a white guy. Duran looks like a indigenous person. That guy Mora looks completely white though.

    But yes black verse Latino makes no sense whatsoever. I tried to present this reality to someone on this forum who said that Tito was going to kick Roy Jones black ass. I was amazed at how stupid this individual was. Because if Tito was born in America as Thomas Jenkins they then he would be black. If Roy's name was Roy Chavez Jr. people would say he isn't black anymore. People need to understand that black is not a nationality, you don't choose to be black. It is a race. This thread would make more since if it was based on nationality.

    Black *American* fighters vs Latino Fighters. There you go.
     
  13. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Shoudlve said African American then, because people will quickly try to set the record straight. African American makes it more about Nationality.
     
  14. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    fellas, it's really not that serious. i'm sure that they were just picking to talk a little junk b/c it was obvious what i meant.
     
  15. Monstar

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    well i'm black.....but that aside i think black boxers are superior for one reason, we have tons of fighters over 160 pounds, and you dont really see that of latino fighters.....we're in every division basically...but with that aside, i'd see black boxers are on an equal pedestal as latino boxers......but yeah i gotta lot of respect for latino's and latino fighters.....so it pretty much just depends on the fighter.... i'd take mosley over de la hoya, cotto over mayweather, and trinidad over hopkins or jones jr.