Black Period Revised: Tom Juchau "Disher"

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    Continuing from
    George Millsom "The Baker" Part I

    Juchau is one of the more enigmatic champions (or alledged champions), in an enigmatic age. I am yet to find any contemporary reference to the fights in which he is thought to have gained and lost the crown. He is generally known by various forms of "Disher",

    This is the first reference to Juchau I have found, is that he was going to box Smallwood, but the police prevented this from happening

    London Evening Post - February 11, 1764
    We hear from St. Alban's, that a great boxing match between Smallwood and Disher, which was to have been fought this day, on which many thousand pounds were depending, is entirely put a stop to by the laudable activity of the worthy magistrates of that borough, after the example of Sir John Fielding, who has suppressed all such riotous meetings in the county of Middlesex.—As it is said that the said bruisers declared, that they must and would fight in some other place, it is hoped that all justices, and officers of the peace, will exert their authority in their several districs, so as effectually to prevent a number of idle and disorderly people assembling together, as there are on these occasions.
    Or so they thought
    London Evening Post - February 14, 1764
    Tuesday evening the battle was decided between the Paviour's son Dishaw and Tom Smallwood, in favour of ther former, after six minutes and an half boxing.
    Old Tom Smallwood, like Milo,
    Is wedged in the timber that be
    Strove to rend;—
    Being obliged to give it up, veteran as he is, to the more powerful youth and strength of his antagonist. The battle was fought at Colney, as they were prevented fighting at St. Alban's by the activity of the magistrates.​
    Juchau did take part in one contest that was never lost to the history however.

    Oxford Journal - Saturday 16 June 1764
    Yesterday there was a great Boxing Match at Guildford, for a considerable Sum of Money, between Kannan a Butcher in Clare Market, and one Ditcher, a noted Pavior ; when after a Battle of fifty-eight Minutes, the Pavior beat his Antagonist. Their Seconds were Slack and Faulkner

    Leeds Intelligencer - Tuesday 19 June 1764
    Wednesday there was a great boxing match at Guildford, for a considerable sum of money, between Koant, a butcher in Clare-market, and on Dicher, a noted Paviour ; when after a battle of 58 minutes, the Pavious beat his antagonist. Their seconds were Slack and Faulkner.

    Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Thursday 21 June 1764
    Wednesday there was a great Boxing Match at Guildford, for a considerable Sum of Sum of Monet, between Kannam, a Butcher in Claremarket, and one Dicher, a noted Paviour: The Butcher knocked the Paviour down six or seven Times succeslively, and the Odds were in his Favour l but the Paviour recovering his Wind, in his Turn threw the Butcher several dreadful Falls; which obliged him to give out, after having fought exactly 46 Minutes and a Half. Their Seconds were Slack and Faulkner.
    It is said there were above 4000l. depending on this Boxing Match ; several Persons of Distinction also were present ; and before the Battle began, the Bets were Three to One, and Two to One on the Butcher ; so that the Knowing ones were largely taken in.

    Dublin Public Register Or Freemans Journal
    It is said there were above 4000l. depending on the great Boxing Match fought on Wednesday last at Guildford: several Persons of Distinction also were present; and before the Battle began, the Betts were Three to One, and Two to One on the Butcher; so that the Knowing-ones were largely taken in.
    Henry Lemoine also gives an account of this contest.

    From Modern Manhood
    MUCH about this time, or a little after-wards, a famous battle was fought at Guildford, between Thomas Juchau, a Pavior, otherwise known by the name of Disher, and one Coant, a Butcher from Clare-market. Before the fight, the odds were 4 to 1 upon Coant, and for the first 25 minutes the Pavior could scarce get a blow at his antagonist, and was knocked down five or six times. At 35 minutes, the odds were so great, that money was offered at any rate; but just then Disher changing his mode of fighting, gave him such a blow as turned the odds greatly in his favour. After three or four rounds more, the Butcher coming full up to the Pavior, and missing his stroke, fell flat on his face, and not being able to continue the contest, gave it in, and the Pavior was pronounced victorious. The engagement lasted 47 minutes.
    It seems another battle between them was planned.
    Jackson’s Oxford Journal – Jul 28, 1764 (page 1)
    We hear that another Battle between the Paviour and Butcher, will be fought next Barnet Races, for two hundred Pounds.

    I also found this account, which is mostly important because of a later account of a Paviour boxing, which may otherwise appear to be Juchau

    Derby Mercury - Friday 13 September 1765
    Tuesday Morning early a Battle was fought in St. George's fields, between James Ellis, a Carman, and William Round, a Paviour, called Stick-in-the-Mud, for five Guineas a Side, besides, many Bets depending ; when, after a Contest of near twenty-two Minutes, Round beat his Antagonist ; but they were both so much bruised, that they were obliged to be carried home by their Companions ; and neither of them were able to speak when put to Bed
    The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. As he supposedly won the title, he apparently lost it again, this time to William Darts, once again I have as of yet found no contemporary reference to this fight taking place.

    From Pancratia
    May, 1766, Tom Juchau fought a famous boxing match with William Darts, a dyer, at Guildford, for 1000 guineas, which after a most severe battle of 40 minutes, was won by Darts.

    I am working with the assumption that these mentions of Juchau's battles with Millsom and Darts are correct, because there is really nothing else to go on, however I really am not sure on this.

    Henry Lemoine does not mention Juchau taking part in contests with Millsom or Darts, and states that "some time after this" he agreed never to box again as part of his marrige. However there are atleast now record of Juchau in other fights, even if not fighting against the top fighters after losing his title as Boxiana claims.

    This continues with
    William Darts "The Dyer"
     
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