Black & White footage of British Boxers

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  1. Flea Man

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    British boxing has a very strong heritage, and has had very impressive fighters in all era's of The Sweet Science.

    Some fans are put off by grainy black & white footage (totally understandable; I used to be and said all the fighters were cavemen that would be sparked by a jab today) but for those that care to take a look at some of the great British fighters of years gone by, here is a thread.

    Please contribute! A small explanation/summary of your chosen fighter and what they did would be nice, if only to give those taking a stab in the dark some base of knowledge as to what they're watching.

    I'll start.

    Benny Lynch

    Glaswegian legend Benny Lynch was an all time great, with a deceptive K.O%. 40,000 saw him defeat monster puncher Peter Kane, and claimed the World Flyweight title in the 30s. He was an awkward and violent boxer-puncher and tough as nails, stopped only once in 108 bouts (his last fight).

    Alcoholism ravaged him and took his career, and life, early. One of the greatest Flyweights of all time, he made 4 defences of a version of the World title (NBA) and once defence of the World Flyweight Championship.

    Vs Filipino Small Montana, unifying the Flyweight title as British, European and World champion. Montana had mixed in great class and had a win over Midget Wolgast!

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dc-j0nG6UE[/ame]

    Decimating Jackie Brown
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI7Mf6v1ab8[/ame]

    Outpunching Pat Palmer. Lynch was a beast.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjnRoYPMMDg[/ame]

    2nd fight with Kane. Lynch missed the weight big (119lbs!) and was supposedly gifted a draw.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogV0CtmCjmM[/ame]
     
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  2. Flea Man

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    Anyone else care to contribute? SkillsPayBills could donate a Tommy Farr piece :yep
     
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  3. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    :good Didn't see this thread at all mate, good idea though.

    Tommy Farr was a hard hitting domestic heavyweight who shot to fame beating Max Baer but his greatest moment would be facing Joe Louis for Heavyweight title of world. Tommy wasn't the greatest technical fighter but he was similar to Carl Froch in fact he was so mentally strong and digged hard enough to gain any fighters respect as well as using the tools he had to best of his ability. I suspect this mentality was due to him looking after his family as youngster he really was the man of the house and it showed when he entered the ring he fought his heart out.

    Tommy Farr vs Joe Louis:

    For modern day fans this fight was like the equivalent of Chisora fighting Vitali Klitschko. Something of a mission impossible, many expected Farr to be blown away by the Brown Bomber who many feel is the greatest Heavyweight of all time. Farr shocked the world and Louis with a sterling effort and once against re-affirmed the British never say die mentality. Taking Louis into the trenches before losing via points decision.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghg2pz7eBk0[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C5sQHpFc_8&feature=related[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-8BUqTGrfI&feature=related[/ame]

    Farr would have a patchy record but always be held in high regard in U.S for his brave and willing displays and here's him winning against Red Burman in a rematch of a bout he lost 3 months previous.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRAWQP7AmXk[/ame]
     
    SkillspayBills, Jan 22, 2012
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  4. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Interesting stat about Tommy he had 5 fights in U.S all went to points and lost them all. Yet he beat Baer and Burman here so maybe he was unlucky to not get nod's in those fights.

    Shows sign of a fighter back then to be kept out there, the Yanks wouldn't want crap over there. Shows how good Tommy was.
     
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  5. perspicacity

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    Would love to have seen footage of John "Cowboy" McCormack, he was my Gran's big cousin and she used to tell me about his fights when I was a boy.
     
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  6. Flea Man

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    So would I and would love to read anything on his points win over George Benton.

    SKB; :good
     
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  7. perspicacity

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    I'm gonna go on a mission to see if it's possible to dig anything up, could take some time contacting family members and stuff.
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    If any of 'em have ever kept newspaper clippings be sure to try and get copies, would be immensely helpful :good

    Keep the videos comin' chaps. Will do Howard Winstone and Alan Rudkin tomorrow.
     
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  9. Vano-Irons

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    Great idea Flea :good

    Although I would have chosen a different Flyweight :yep
     
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  10. Flea Man

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    Well post it then nobhead :deal :yep
     
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  11. Vano-Irons

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    :lol:

    I'm on the iPhone, but I'll have a go tomorrow :good
     
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  12. Flea Man

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    :good
     
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  13. teeto

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    great thread this
     
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  14. teeto

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    Benny Lynch is defo one of the best flyweights of all time

    he doesn't resemble Erik Morales from an aesthetic perspective but he reminds me of him in that his approach to the fight is the same, he's in there jumping in and out just unloading his heavy artillery from the get go
     
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  15. Flea Man

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    Welshman Howard Winstone was a brilliant boxer, who posted an intimidating amateur record of 83-3 and won the ABA championship at bantamweight. His career and style was hampered by an industrial accident that severed fingers on his right hand and made it difficult for him to even make a fist. This would force him to become a very smart and poised boxer with a lovely jab.

    Also, ATG Vicente Saldivar was featherweight champion during Winstone's active career, which made it extremely difficult for him to claim THE World Championship. Still, Winstone fought Saldivar three times (only first two included as the third is in colour ;-)) and briefly held the WBC title (vacant) after Saldivar retired.

    First two fights with Saldivar (2nd is the best of their trilogy)

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih1yX7fc3Lo[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1mMLV3T3TU[/ame]

    Winstone finally claims a World strap with a cuts win over the hard-hitting lower weight troubador Mitsonuri Seki, who once went 15 with Pone Kingpetch for the flyweight title, and gave Saldivar two epic struggles for the 126lb championship.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCHqLjaOFEc[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGVtofKZ7NE[/ame]

    There is more of Winstone on youtube now for anyone that's interested :good
     
    Flea Man, Jan 22, 2012
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