Blatant Robbery. Kovalev Won That Fight

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  1. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I care for neither fighter but its obvious Kov landed the harder punches and did quite a bit more damage and had Ward hurt several times. And you add in Kov landing more, it should be an academic decision win. Ward had some good moments, outboxed Kov here and there, but nothing hurt Kov, nor did it appear Kov suffered any real damage. For Ward to win that fight after getting put down, he should have been clearly outboxing Kov and doubling him up with punches landed, seeing as he's the faster better boxer, but he wasn't. The rounds that were close, where the punches were equal give or take for one guy, those rounds should go to Kov based on his punches actually backing ward off and hurting him. There were a few moments in the fight where both men didn't want to budge and both were landing, and every time it was ward backing off hurt. That was a bad decision. Ward didn't deserve more than 5 rounds.
     
  2. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What went on in there? lol Ward got beat up, but hung in there and was able to slightly outbox kov some of the rounds, yet didn't put an ounce of damage on him. Meanwhile, ward was hurt and damaged, and face was pretty beat up. This isn't amateur boxing nor should be scored like that. But even if it was, Kov still should have won based on more punches landed lol.
     
  3. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I'm not sure if I felt worse for Perez or Kovalev. Both got jobbed.

    Roc Nation fighters got the victories in controversy and Roc Nation promoted the card.

    Is anyone truly surprised? Just go back to some Don King promoted cards and see what people thought of the judges that favored King fighters then.
     
  4. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A fight should be judged based on who lands MORE leather, and who inflicts more damage. That is what boxing is about at the end of the day. Kov didn't look hurt for a single second in the fight. He may have been tired, but anytime the 2 of them traded and stuck their chins out, it was Ward that was budging and backing off hurt, even late in the fight. There is no way in hell Ward won each of the last 6 rounds.
     
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  5. Caper

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    Ok, not sure how that applies to my post other than you reinforcing the theory that a fight should be judged on who lands more "leather". I guess I didn't find the almost trivial difference (116 vs 126) punches landed as the end all factor here. Should I argue that Ward was more efficient thus the winner because he landed at 34% vs SK's 26%?........who inflicted more damage lol don't tell me your gonna do look at his face and look at mine notion. Sure Ward was dropped I guess that's your ammo, in that case well done. Still changes nothing in the grand scheme of things.
     
  6. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its not just the punches landed count, its the fact that Kov's punches were damaging Ward. He looked hurt maybe half a dozen times in the fight which just underlines the fact Kov landed the HARDER more effective blows. And of course the damage Ward had on his face was just more proof of that and lack of damage on Kovs. The clean punches Ward landed weren't nearly as effective as Kov's were. Kov absorbed the shots as if they had absolutely nothing behind them. And of course connect % doesn't really matter when you've been outlanded and outworked. Who cares how many punches someone throws, so long as they connect MORE and do MORE damage than incoming. With the "boxing match" actually being close, while the damage factor wasn't close, its shocking Ward won without really outboxing Kov. If you're the smaller, less powerful man, you better be clearly outboxing your opponent if you want that 10. Compubox should have been a wipe out for Ward, seeing as he won while being hurt several times and put down, but it wasn't. When I punch you several times, and you punch me several times harder and hurt me. You get the 10. Hell even if I land a few more.
     
  7. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I guess that's where we disconnect, I only saw one or possibly two moments where Ward was "buzzed" he was dropped not hurt.....there where moments when Ward was tagged and seemed to accept the hit, absorb it and move past it. Its convenient not mentioning Sk's moments of pure confusion and frustration, not sure if it was the 9th round but his body was being ripped and his punches turned into swinging noodles. I'm sorry I can certainly see your point of view and why you would side with SK here however it does not eliminate the fact that Ward controlled the pace of the overall fight he imposed his will from a strategic standpoint while SK captured the more telling moments which seemed to overwhelm (in your eyes) the body of work from Ward put in after being dominated in the initial rounds.
     
  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if it was 7-5 how could it be a robbery? that means you probably gave some close rounds to Kovalev, its just a home decision from your scorecard, robbery is 8-4, 9-3 type scorecards in my opinion.
     
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  9. KingFury64

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    Kovalev made Ward look sh!t.
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    "Kovalev's punches had more effect, look at Ward's face"

    Well no ****, Kovalev is a KO artist. He's the bigger puncher. By this logic Kovalev wins by default because Ward can't hit as hard.
     
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  11. MUFA$A

    MUFA$A FEAR * THE * TANK Full Member

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    That was very easy to see

    It was a pretty bad decision .

    Roy Jones Jr spoke his mind on it

    " I love Ward , I keep it real , I keep it real......... No i can't agree with that decision .
     
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  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    In the early rounds, yes. But Ward is a slow starter. Kovalev didn't look like a master boxer either, in the sense of dominating. I saw two great fighters bringing their A game into a chess match. Considering their skill level, I think they both looked good.
     
  13. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    That doesn't change the fact that people can objectively have different scores lol. That's why there's THREE judges and not one.
     
  14. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Did some ****ing ****** in this thread actually say that only "purist boxing fans could appreciate that Ward won"? LOL

    Just when you think you have heard everything. Purist obviously being code for..................
     
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  15. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With that logic, Gonzalez got smashed to bits by Caudras coz he looked like the elephant man. When will these guys learn that some peoples skin react to punches differently to others.
     
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