Bob Arum: Blames Schaefer and "that creep Oscar" for poisoning Mayweather-Pacquiao

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  1. jeffem

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    BOB ARUM: BLAMES SCHAEFER AND "THAT CREEP OSCAR" FOR POISONING MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO
    By G. Leon


    "Our position is really straight forward and there's no way in hell they're not going to accept our position. This has never before happened in boxing, let alone Nevada. Let's leave it to the Nevada Commission and let them take over the governing of the event."

    GL: To be clear, if this fight doesn't happen under the full jurisdiction of the NSAC as every fight before it, then it's just not going to happen.

    Bob Arum: "Absolutely! Who are we, the fighters to make the rules? We've got a Commission, let them make the rules. If you want to come before the Commission and ask them for additional tests for both fighters, you want to test them going into the ring, in the ring, whatever you want to do, you're the Commission tell us. As far as I'm concerned the Nevada Commission are boxing people. They'll make the rules that will protect the fighters and we'll get all this silly stuff done and over with."

    GL: As a boxing guy reading between the lines, it seems to me that you're not so subtly telling the Mayweather camp where they can go and this is what they get for overplaying their hand because they basically had all of their concessions and decided to go public and accuse Manny...

    BA: (cutting in) "Exactly. Let's do this the right way. Manny Pacquiao is 100% an honest kid. He's never cheated and virtually every doctor except for this guy from USADA says you can determine everything from urine analysis. People in that organization hate that guy that has been a loudmouth. Ask him how many blood tests there were from 29 days before the Olympics until after the competition was over. YOu know what the answer is? ZERO. If they didn't do any blood tests until after the athlete competed what the hell are they talking about? What are we trying to subject these fighters to?"

    GL: And this isn't a position your going to bend on, it's just take it or leave it at this point.

    BA: "Absolutely. Not particularly when we found out that in his office Schaefer told Ron Nathanielz that Pacquiao was a cheat, that he was taking drugs and so forth. And his dialogue with this creep from the USADA started in September. We have evidence of that, we have all of the inside stuff. This is a whole campaign on his and that creep Oscar's part to smear Pacquiao because he chose us over them. I'll bet you all the money in the world, I don't know this for a fact, but this whole idea was put in their ear by Schaefer."

    GL: For somebody who allowed Todd duBoef to take the lead, you seem to be telling everyone what it is.

    BA: "Well, once I saw what was happening, I said to myself, I'm going to get emotional about this, let's see if Todd, who is cooler can salvage this and play along with them. I'll show you the documents, when they put this in the documents, I immediately crossed it out and when we returned our contract to them it didn't include that clause."

    GL: Do you think boxing needs better standards for testing?

    BA: "I think there should be more pre-fight testing with urine analysis, but our doctors and experts tell us that every single thing that can be picked up in blood, is better picked up in urine analysis. The only reason they do the blood after the guy competes is because they freeze the blood and it stays good for eight years, the urine decomposes after a while. If they want to take blood after the fight, if they want to freeze it fine, who gives a ****? But that's why there's no blood testing until after the competition at the Olympics and that's something this scumbag never said."

    GL: What's the Mayweather camp's deadline?

    BA: "On Monday we're going to make a deal with Lou and Malignaggi and we're going to put a deal together with the same kind of procedures in place for Manny's next fight, and that'll shut up Malignaggi also. He's been keeping quiet now because he doesn't want to blow a fight, but that's fine. Either way, I'm sure he'll be satisfied."

    GL: Considering some of his opinions, some are surprised you chose that direction.

    BA: "Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but what the **** is everybody talking about? He was 135 for Diaz, 142 for De La HOya, 138 for Hatton and 143 for Cotto. Where is the difference in weight? He's been virtually the same weight for the last two years."

    GL: If Mayweather and Pacquiao is salvaged, are you disappointed at the black cloud that has already been cast above the promotion? Isn't this a black eye on an event that should have been absolutely positive?

    BA: "I think you're absolutely right, but I think our litigation will proceed in any event. Our major litigation is against Golden Boy for the promotional rights of Pacquiao and that's about to go bye-bye."

    GL: Golden Boy still makes money on Pacquiao fights, yes?

    BA: "Yes, but we're going before the arbitrator to get that removed and that's going to cost them millions of dollars. And that includes the profit that they would have gotten from the Cotto fight, which is probably between $1.5-$2M on their end."

    GL: Closing thoughts?

    BA: "My closing thoughts are, this nonsense has got to stop otherwise Mayweather can pound sand. It's simple as that. We're not going to put up with this nonsense anymore. It's made a farce out of boxing. It's made a farce out of the event and it's been a calculated attempt to smear the name of Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather should know better. The only thing I can think of is, he's using this as an excuse to get out of the fight."


    Source: Boxing Talk.
     
  2. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Without reading the article, I blame Bob Arum over those two, and anyone else for that matter.

    Bob Arum deserves the worst fate available to a human being.
     
  3. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Gangster Bob blames everyone but himself for this debacle.
     
  4. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep that is the article by G.Leon I was talking about in the "where is roach" thread...
     
  5. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I find the comments in bold quite interesting. Remains to be confirmed...
     
  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    This was posted on this forum:

    Originally Posted by paulfv
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    Summary: Extended Team Mayweather member Richard Schaefer has been the point man for Team Mayweather's "Olympic Testing Jihad" against Manny Pacquiao. Turns out the same guy, Schaefer, very recently FLAT REJECTED the same or similar testing for another of GBP's fighters, admitted steroid cheat Shane Mosley. Zab Judah had requested the testing be done if the two men were to fight, and Schaefer said "no."

    Basically Team Mayweather are hypocrites on the testing issue via Schaefer. The Mosley episode shows they are willing to play the "it's ok for our guy to not be tested, but not yours." Add this to the fact that Mosley's a known cheat and Pac isn't, and you have a public relations hurricane that started up like 2 days ago.

    Good point. Did anyone else read that?
     
  7. blastmaster122

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    I blame Top Rank and GBP for getting the sports networks and other media outlets to cover this "story". They are getting closer and closer to laughing their asses all the way to the bank to make some fat deposits soon.
     
  8. Rooney

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    Bob Arum is a ****. And he getting to emotionally involved the senile old fool.

    This aint you V Schaffer no one wants to see that ****. It's about Pac V Mayweather you jack ass. Bob you need to **** off into the background and put a gag order on yourself for a change.

    Bob Arum stance on the matter changes every day. First it is PAC is willing to do any blood tests but not with USADA.

    Then the mayweather camp says fine it can be someone else.

    Then Bob says no it has to be Nevada. (NEVADA DONT DO BLOOD TEST)

    Then Bob goes on to say, maybe we can all sit down and work something out with Nevada.

    Everything at this point seems to be going well.

    Then Bob changes to, Let Golden boy write a letter to nevada about changing their rules, we wont help them get the testing, but will stick to what they say.

    Arum knows full well Nevada wont change their rules which is why Golden Boy already seeked out USADA:-(

    Also just to point out Roach had said we need a 3-5 day cut off window.

    This seem a good idea, but what happened to that? Instead Bob and PAC are saying NO TESTING during training camp and 30 days before the fight:huh

    Yet everyone on here was saying Pac is willing to do the blood tests just NOT ON THE DAY OF THE FIGHT.

    But Pac has offically said he dont want to do it at all in training camp.

    Arum and Pac need to sort it out. It looks fishy.:think
     
  9. Nuke

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    How is it Arums fault? I suspect most people have a preconceived notion of what is going on and will not differ from that thought no matter what happens, this is ignorance at its finest.
     
  10. 3rdIslander

    3rdIslander GURU R.I.P. Full Member

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    :good Same here.

    Say what you will about Arum; the fact is, he's a good businessman. He wouldn't be apt to waste money on a frivolous lawsuit if he thinks he can provide admissible evidence.

    It's also no secret that DLH & GBP view boxers who have turned down contracts with them as "enemies". GBP has thrown the entire stable @ Pacquiao.
     
  11. Nuke

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    Mayweather is the only one who thinks that testing done by NSAC isn't good enough and wants it changed. If you don't think something is wrong why would you help someone else change them? That is the guy who doesn't agree with it to fight.
     
  12. Rooney

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    It's arums fault because he keeps changing his tune. Read my post and then go and ignore the facts.
     
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  14. Nuke

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  15. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bob Arum is talking about USADA which is the agency mandated for drug tests to athletes within the United States.

    Asafa Powell was tested by the Olympic committee's International drug agency, which so happens to be located in Montreal, about 20 minutes from my place. They take samples from the competitions and send them in Montreal for analysis.

    Once US athletes are in the Olympics, the USADA is irrelevant since the International agency takes over and they're the ones Powell was talking about !!