Bob Arum: Kessler is on Pavlik's short list

Just as Pavlik has not been in with anyone like Kessler, a point I willingly concede, neither has Kessler been in the ring with anyone remotely like Pavlik. (And don't bother bringing up Andrade. What he does at a C+ level, Pavlik does at at an A level.)

 

Well I partly agree - you know - Kessler fought Calzaghe and actually outboxed him on the inside in the first four rounds.

But comparing their fights is very telling, my friend. You should be able to see that - even with the stuff on youtube.

 

Sorry don't buy any of that, especially about the power factor. Kessler is a strong guy, but he is more of an athlete with gloves than a fighter.
His defense is not that great, how many punches did JC land? A fight I hope to see.

 

A textbook boxer?? Maybe from a Euro standpoint? A Decent fighter, but really an average guy all around.

 

Watch his fights or shut up.

An average fighter:huh

 

To me, that is an apt description for somebody like Taylor

Kessler is strong, but he's not particularly athletic. He doesn't have insane speed, stamina or reflexes. He's just good in these departments

He's a techincally correct boxer, with a textbook jab and right cross, a high guard and an uncanny sense of distance and timing. These are parts of his skillset, not his physical attributes

He's a boxer first, athlete second.

 

Really. This is the 3rd thread so far based on Palle and Kessler's managers site. Like I said before. Give me another reference. These two guys have little to no cred any more with me.

 

Seen him fight a few times, IMO average guy. Who are all the great fighters hes beaten by the way???

 

Hes never beat any GREAT fighters, but you know a talent if you see one. Or do you????

 

I don't buy much of it either. Especially not the part about Kessler's jab being so much faster and more powerful than Pavlik's. We still have a lot of fans saying Pavlik is slow. I've never heard a fighter or trainer say that AFTER a fight. It tends to be just the opposite: "He was a lot faster than we thought he was."

There is no debating the fact that Kessler has one of the best jabs in the business. Very fast, very powerful, and very orthodox. Pavlik is more creative with his than people give him credit for. If you watch closely, you'll see that many of his jabs have little power behind them. His glove isn't even closed. He often just flicks a double jab right into his opponents eyes to disguise the monster right hand that is already on the way. Conversely, he is capable of sending big guys backward with a jab. If this fight happens, the jabbing contest will be a very important element. I really think it is 50/50 with Kessler possibly holding a slight power advantage and Pavlik being more versatile with his.

 

Boxing greatness in the end is figured by who you beat, and who you lose to. It is easy to look great fighting so-so guys. Jeff Lacy is a good recent example of this. Wins and losses don't mean as much as the actual names.

 

Well it depends on the definition of greatness.

To be GREAT is something rare.

Kessler beat Andrade, Mundine, Siaca, Beyer, Lucas extremely convincing and he made a good fight against Calzaghe, despite being outsmarted.


What great fighters has either Pavlik or Miranda beat btw???

 

You have a valid point here my man. To me neither Kessler nor Pavlik has a really impressive resume'. However, not of the guys off the "c" and "D" list ever gave Pavlik any problems, and Kessler's only loss was to Calzaghe. It's not just who you beat. How you best them matters too.

 

You are a myopic, ignorant buffoon. That is all.

 

On second thought, that is not all. How about: you're an average guy all round, big rocks?