Bob Arum: Manny thinks Money May would be an easy fight

Shane and Marquez do what they want to do, but what does that have to do with Floyd?

 

It wasn't even a plausible demand. Every other reasonable one was already taken care of and conceded by Pac, so you are factually wrong.

 

i think it would be wise for people to just reserve their judgement until pac is done with his task and until floyd and pac sit down and talk. right now, all that's coming out in the media, mixed bs and all, don't hold any weight. who cares what koncz, ellerbe, roger, pac, or floyd said awhile back. the only statement that will matter is what pac and floyd agree on come negotiations.

 

Shane and Marquez fought Pacquiao without the OSDT, and why not Floyd?

 

That is false. Arum and Pac already said testing wasn't an issue anymore, they will do the test supervised by any WADA organisation while in the philippines and by USADA for the other half of the training camp in America. cutoff dates are no longer an issue. Floyd on the other hand still mumbles lies like "take the test if you're the best" Even Kevin Iole of yahoo who used to be a floyd hugger sees through this bull****. And floyd avoids the issue like the plague

 

Except it is a plausible demand. I believe Tyson stipulated drug testing for Holyfield. Also Floyd has had no problem with the tests coming from Vic or Shane, so explain to be how it isn't plausible ( I suspect you are using words you don't know the meaning of).

Like I said, tell me why Manny can not agree to OSDT.

 

:roll: The penalty for going overweight was plausible because Floyd had history of going overweight. Pacquiao had no history of bad drug testing.

You're going to tell me OSDT was plausible just because crackhead Sr said so? atsch This discussion is over.

And for the question you keep parroting, he didn't agree to testing because Floyd doesn't have to push Pac around. Ask Duran. :deal

 

And the various commissions have established penalties for weight violations.

Why is it ok for Pacquiao's team to come up with their own version of the weight violation penalty, but not ok for Mayweather's team to come up with their own version of drug testing? Both are making alterations to commission guidelines.

Hypocrite much?

 

No it is not false, they say it isn't a issue, but then say **** like the USADA should be conducted under the perview of the Nevada and their boxing association, which is assinie since they are 2 seperate entities. They cry about USADA not being acceptable, but why aren't they?

They say cutoff dates aren't a issue, then why not simply put it in writing and get the fight done?

If Manny wants the fight, after Marquez sign the dotted line and get it done if they no longer have any hangups. I beleive it was Arum himself who said the only issue was drug testing, so if that isn't a issue after the fight I fully expect Manny and Co to get it made.

 

Floyd paid that fine off like it was nothing, thus there was no real incentive to keep him from doing it again.

There was no reason for additional testing. Period.

 

Again using words you don't know the meaning of.

How is OSDT not plausible when Shane and victor agreed to it and went through it in their fights.

I keep asking the same question because you keep refusing to answer it, why won't Manny sign the papers and get it done if he has no problem with full OSDT.

 

What I don't understand is this part. It seems everyone agrees that Floyd was ok with a 14 day cutoff at one point, namely the first round of negotiation. Why is he no longer ok with a 14 day cutoff? Is it just an ego thing where he wants to have control of the negotiations? By moving the cutoff date, can we really believe it's about cleaning the sport?

Why not leave it at a 10-14 day cut off and say that you've tried to compromise?

 

So you agree that the commission guidelines are not always sufficient?

Again, why is it wrong to request additional PED testing for a boxing match? Especially in an era of sports where a multitude of athletes, great and non-great alike, have been caught for doping?

What is the incentive to keep PED users from doing it again and again with out-dated testing techniques?

Your hypocrisy is amusing to say the least.

 

i think they'll tell you that floyd already agreed to it but there is an expiration. if that makes any sense at all

 

One dimensional thinking. Shane and Victor were desperate for a payday.

And what's this about signing a paper? Floyd has never sent a single document to the opposing team since the first negotiation. He just keeps going on vacation.