Bob Arum: Manny thinks Money May would be an easy fight

floyd's commission?

he didnt ask his 40 previous opponents now we have to have floyd's commission? :rofl:rofl

where in fact he wanted ost style he is not even tested year round during his vacation :rofl

the ambassador of clean sports has no video, documentation to set a good example.

fkin amatures

 

You avoided the question, again.

You said commission guidelines were not sufficient in regard to weight penalties, but make no mention of their out-dated PED testing techniques.

Why is it ok to alter one guideline and not the other?

 

Pacquiao's commission? Who asks for $10 million per pound? Seriously. Did Manny ask his previous opponents to pay millions per pound if they missed weight?

Just admit it: You're ok with Pacquiao changing the commission guidelines to suit him, but are not ok with Mayweather doing the exact same thing. LOL, classic.

 

You answered your question right there.

I'm talking about the basis for any assertions or demands, which you fail to understand for some reason.

 

I keep telling you this but you're not listening. There's no NEED to change the other guideline because there is no basis. The first does because Floyd had a history of going over the weight.

 

How is it one dimensional thinking? Fact is it is plausible, capable of happening, because it actually has been accepted in previous negotiations.

Now I can say Shane didn't take the test against Manny because he was desprate for a payday, but you would ignore that wouldn't you.

why would he send a document, until recently they have been arguing for cutoff dates, now they claim they have no problem with full OSDT, but both have fights lined up.

We'll see what the truth is if Manny fights Floyd next or fights Tim Bradley like Arum wants.

Easy in negotiations sometimes people will give you a 1 time only deal to get it done, if it isn't accepted the offer is removed from the table.

The better question is why didn't Manny take the deal when it was offered?

Either way he lost that option, but it shouldn't matter right, he is clean so just take the damn OSDT and get the fight done. Shane did it. Vic did it. He can do it.

 

what pac asked was because of a previous violation. what floyd asked for was a continuation of the insult previously thrown out. add to the fact that there was no basis nor precedence. obviously pride came into play plus politics. floyd puts you in a bad position that you lose your cool. he likes insulting people. hatton, dela hoya, ortiz.. these all succumbed and lost to that game floyd likes to play.

it's not a simple innocent request. don't play it that way

 

" hello, who are you, who are you?"

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrnygDZdX4I[/ame]

 

Tyson requested additional PED testing for Holyfield. I don't see anybody expressing outrage over it or claiming Tyson was using it to "duck" Holyfield.

Violation or not, Mayweather paid the commission penalty for his violation. Why is it ok for Pacquiao to create his own rule in regard to this, but not ok for Mayweather to create his own rule regarding testing? A commission penalty would still be in place and $10 million per pound is WAY over the top, but Mayweather agreed anyways, and HE is ducking? GTFO here!! LOL

If you're going to have the argument: "Floyd Mayweather is not the boxing commission," you have to be even handed and say: "Neither is Manny Pacquiao."

And the previous violation was at a catchweight of 144 pounds. Mayweather has never missed weight at 147 pounds.

 

It wasn't plausible (I.E. reasonable) at the time for Manny because he had no history.

Shane did take testing afaik from what Roach said.

 

Hagler is just mad because Leonard made him accept his demands to get a fight.

Yes it was reasonable, Vic had no history either.

Now if Manny required Shane to take a test, why is it that he can't take a test?

You are killing yourself.

Fact is if Manny wants the fight all he has to do is agree to OSDT and get the papers signed.

 

Actually Roach said it wouldn't be right to ask Shane to do the testing because "THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO DO IT THEMSELVES."

 

Come on. These are all common sense.

Victor had no history, but victor was willing to be pushed around for a payday.

Shane wouldve had to take a test because he had history AND was willing to be pushed around for a payday. Pac didnt.

 

is hagler a *******?

you are running away :yep

BTW i live in san ramon. perhaps we can spar :hey

 

I didn't say you were wrong, I am saying that its hypocritcal. Why didn't Pac's camp say well the commission rules and status quo are for WW and JMW fights to be at 147 or 154 so we will honor those weight limits regulated by the commission when fighting Cotto or Margarito for WW and JMW titles. If you want to stand for something then you stand for it even when it doesn't benifit you. Don't act like you stand for something but deviate from it any time it doesn't benifit from you.

Mayweather's request wasn't for Pac to only test but for both fighters to undergo the same exact testing. Blood testing doesn't benifit Mayweather unless Pac was doing steroids so even though he asked for it he would have to get tested himself and may not even benifit from it at the end of the day.