Bob Arum: Mayweather Has Already Decided To Fight Robert Guerrero On May 5, 2012

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by paulfv, Jan 11, 2012.


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  1. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because some chess moves work, and some don't.

    In this case, Arum could have been right or he could have been wrong. He turned out to be wrong.

    I said in another thread the other day that the floating of the Guerrero fight could have been a "trial balloon." Put it out there and see how people react to it.

    Well, they didn't react well.

    So, the plan may have been Guerrero. But if that was the case, then it's on to Plan B for Team Mayweather.

    This stuff isn't always as simple as it looks. Sometimes it is, often it is not.
     
    paulfv, Jan 11, 2012
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  2. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More likely Guerrero was never a serious consideration a la Spadafora and was only put out there to add desirability to whichever non-Pacquiao opponent is in fact next.
     
    purephase, Jan 11, 2012
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  3. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You were terribly wrong, next page.
     
    thawk888, Jan 11, 2012
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  4. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seems the case.

    A good, basic tactic. Like the Pac "call out" misdirection play.

    So, seems Cotto or Alvarez. My guess is Cotto.
     
    paulfv, Jan 11, 2012
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  5. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow.

    So after 2 years of watching Bob Arum 'play chess', here's where we are today:

    - The much mailgned blood testing will be, by all accounts, part of any fight between the two
    - Pacquiao, if we are to believe his latest '50/50 or no fight' statement, is STILL getting short money at the negotiation table, in spite of all his worldwide popularity, PPV sales, and fame
    - The boxing media (Iole, Rafael, etc.) are now openly stating that Pac/Arum appear to be ducking the fight.

    All this in a 'chess match' with a guy who is one of the most polarizing athletes in sports (Mayweather), known for constantly sticking his foot in his own mouth, has absolute TERRIBLE (or no) PR people assisting him, AND who was recently convicted and going is to jail.

    And yet, in paulfv's world, Arum gets continually sucked off for his 'brilliant tactics' and 'gambits'. Dude is hustling backwards for his client and getting killed where it counts, the negotiation table where he has not won ONE concession for his client since the first round of negotiations.

    And yet these Pac fans getting all starry eyed believing he is in the midst of some Machiavellian masterstroke.

    This is sad. Sad, sad, sad. And really fugging dumb. :verysad
     
    Sweet Jones, Jan 11, 2012
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  6. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Straight heat here. :deal
     
    PBFred, Jan 11, 2012
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  7. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    You should ban yourself, cut off your ****ing e knee we knee t knee we knee shriveled little short dick off, hang yourself, dig yourself up out of your grave and do it all over again-eternally.
     
    Whipdatass, Jan 11, 2012
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  8. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seriously, man, this sh!t is getting ridiculous.
     
    Sweet Jones, Jan 11, 2012
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  9. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unfortunately for the detractors, he is.

    Team Floyd is still playing catch-up in the Machiavelli department.

    They're getting closer, though.

    Sadly, the clock is not in their favor.
     
    paulfv, Jan 11, 2012
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  10. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, no Sisyphean-type tasks for me. Thanks for the suggestion, though. :good
     
    paulfv, Jan 11, 2012
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  11. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :yep
     
    thawk888, Jan 11, 2012
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  12. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point. Everything that was a problem in the past according to Arum, is now no longer an issue. Since this is the case it makes it clear all along he doesn't/don't want this fight to be made.
     
    Symphenyceo, Jan 11, 2012
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  13. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, but it's a good try. Nobody who was paying attention after Pac-Cotto will ever fall for that nonsense.

    You can't fool all the people all the time. No matter how many alts you have or how many smoke and mirrors you use. Believe me, it would seem Fight Hype has tried everything.
     
    paulfv, Jan 11, 2012
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  14. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another reach around for for Arum, I see.

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    :verysad
     
    Sweet Jones, Jan 11, 2012
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  15. Farmboxer

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    Void will avoid..................
     
    Farmboxer, Jan 11, 2012
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