Bob Arum not even trying or mentioning Floyd-Cotto.

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well I was referring to comparing Cotto's win over Mosley to PBF's win over DLH. And I believe you two were discussing that.

    And even adding on what you did, it still isn't comparable. The only thing Mosley has on DLH is the two head to head victories.

    Of the ones you mentioned, only DLH and Wright could be considered ATG on Mosley resume (and Wright is debatable). I named 6 ATG off the top of my head for DLH.

    Even accounting for him fighting them 2x (3 of them) I didn't even name off the next level of competition for DLH that are comparable to Mosley's fighting Forrest and Vargas (when he fought him especially, since he was shot). Remember, DLH also fought Castillejo, Gonzalez, Hernandez, Camacho, Leija, etc.

    The top tier of DLH is higher than Mosley, and the half of the top fighters Mosley fought (and lost to) are on the level of DLH's second level of competition.
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Like I said, its his style which would make it a good win, and after he beats Quitana will only further prove my point like I said.
     
  3. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I have to see and examine the a link to such evidence to believe it. No disrespect to you or anyone else but Wright had sought that fight for a long time and sometimes these 'offers" are BS.
     
  4. Ramshall1

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    Yup, Shane beat DLH in his prime, then beat him again at 154, where DLH had the weight division advantage.

    At 36 SHane went toe to toe and lost a very close decison to a young prime lion like Cotto. SHane is the better fighter.

    Shane lost to Winky and Vernon, DLH wouldnt step foot in the ring with either in their prime.
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Mosley didn't fight guys DLH fought either. That isn't a good argument at all.
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    That's why Winky turned down 6 million.
     
  7. Ramshall1

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    He hasnt even gotten in the ring with Quintana yet, so he hasnt proven anything yet according to your own standards.

    So you think he is a bigger threat than Shane cause he might beat Quintana in the future? Downright absurd.


    Fact is, you cant find it within you to give Margarito any credit whatsoever. Thats why you backed yourself into this corner and cant get out.
     
  8. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    It wasnt about Cotto's comp AT ALL:nono Other than EZE said Miguel never faced a LIVE WW. To that I said, SSM and Quintana are live WW's, thats the extent of Cotto in the discussion.

    Then it turned into him saying DLH and SSM were equal. Which led us down the path.

    Again SSM beat the Golden Girl prime for prime and Forrest and Wright were better opponents than all but Whitaker and Hopkins. You saw what Wink did to Trinidad. Chavez?? That was the shell of Chavez and doesnt equal a prime version.
     
  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol: He's already shown against Matthyse and Mitchell that his style is a big problem. And anyone would struggle with him. He'd be a stylelistic nightmare for anyone. Beating him would be better then a win over an old Shane.


    Now if we go by your standards, Margo being a good fighter, then that only further adds to the point.
     
  10. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Bro Wink fought trinidad at 160, not 54.
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Didn't Vargas beat Winky very early in his career?
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Okay? Winky could come down, he was trying to make a fight with Floyd at 154 at around the same time.
     
  13. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Ever see the fight?

    Vargas got all his Christmas's THAT DAY and I was a vargas fan.
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You said this in reference to Eze saying that Cotto's win over Mosley was equal to PBF's win over DLH. It was what I was referring to. So you did comment on it.

    Forrest is not better than Trinidad....no, not at all. Is Wright better than him at 160 where the fight took place? Yes. But DLH fought Trinidad at 147, where Trinidad has 14 title defenses, and overall, Trinidad accomplished more than both of them.

    Chavez is far greater than Forrest and Wright. Hopkins, Whitaker, as well. And didn't Vargas (prime) beat Wright as well? DLH also beat Mayorga, who blasted Forrest 2 times and is 2 division champion as well.

    6 ATG is far better competition than Mosley fought Money. This isn't even close.
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No way man, Vargas won that fight. It was close, but Vargas won.