Bob Fitzsimmons is to this day a top 20 all time heavyweight.

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I sincerely believe this to be the case. Based on his dominence vs the other top fighters of his era the case is strong.

    The bigest objection to this claim is obviously his weight. He would have to be a genuine physical freak for this to be the case.

    I think that the way he disposed of the top heavyweights of his day, generaly with a single punch or combination justifies including him among the top heavyweight finishers of all time.

    I am in absolutely no doubt whatsoever that he is the best heavyweight finisher of the period between John L Sullivan and Jack Dempsey.

    Today he is rotinely ranked beneath champions such as Max Schmeling, JKack Sharkey and Max Baer. Virtualy nobody would have considered these men to be in the same league as him while they were champion.

    I submit that his record combined with the finishing prowes he displayed while disposing of his heavyweight oponents justify such a ranking.
     
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  3. apollack

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    In the Ring With Bob Fitzsimmons is now available. To order, contact
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    464 pages, 63 photos and illustrations, 968 footnotes, bibliography, index, and appendix (containing a complete Fitzsimmons career record).

    Hardback, $34.95 plus shipping.
     
  4. janitor

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    Fitzsimmons Ruhlin. This article gives an idea of the reaction at the time to Fitzsimmons. The contemporary press saw a fighter his size putting away top heavyweights so decisivley as an aberation. Fitz went into a lot of his heavyweight fights as the underdog.

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  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    what black fighters did fitz face?
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    one other question: how will fitz get away with holding a low guard, no head movement, throwing wide flailing punches against guys like liston, louis, patterson, dempsey?? and even a jerry quarry type fighter? How will he be able to face a hard stiff 80" Jab??
     
  7. janitor

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    Starlight Edward Rollins.

    Probably others.

    We dont know what colour most of his oponents were and the colour bar didnt wash in Australia.
     
  8. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fitz had head movement, it very HARD to spot in that super slow mo version of the Corbett Fitz fight, but its there.
     
  9. janitor

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    Fitz certainly didnt throw wide flailing punches. He could target pressure points of the body with incredible speed and acuracy. While he did have a low guard he dose not seem to have got hit verry often.

    Asking him to fight Liston, Louis or Dempsey is a tall order but I suspect he would make toast of Jerry Quarry in his own back yard.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Harris Martin ...A.K.A. the black Pearl.
     
  11. Manassa

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    Must have been a crackin' bunch to not even have their race noted.
     
  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    There was a fighter named Black Fitzsimmons. Sounds mighty crackin' to me.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    Get real young man, any one of them could have easily won a strap in todays world. Some could have concievably won straps from 147 to heavyweight.
     
  14. janitor

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    In those days you could get to quite a high level of pugilistic atainment without coming to the atention of boxrec. Say comonwealth level.
     
  15. RoccoMarciano

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    I agree :good