Bob Fitzsimmons VS Harry Greb

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  1. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    [FONT=&quot]A battle between the quintessential Middleweight puncher VS the quintessential Middleweight swarmer. Would Greb overwhelm Fitz as he did so many others or would bob be able to land enough precise, powerful blows to put Greb out of commision. Who takes it?
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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Considering the men Greb beat. I gotta go with Greb.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I think that Greb would be a bad stylistic matchup for Fitz.

    In order to win Fitzsimmons would need a verry well thought out fight plan.
     
  4. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gotta go with Greb in this one .Although Fitz scoring a k.o. is entirely possible.Thanks:hat
     
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  5. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fitzsimmons by brutal KO. He was used to rough stuff and hit way to hard especially to the body for Greb
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Greb wide. Could be a beat down later on. Too fast.
     
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  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think Fitz would get to him after taking some punishment and stop him late.
     
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  8. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tend to go with gre b in 15 but fitz might just splatter him
     
  9. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fitz was considered the better fighter by most contemporaries.
    He beat the better fighters.
    He had a far better win loss record.
    it is still pretty close though.
     
  10. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=146581&p=5115263#p5115263

    This thread has a pretty good analysis (i think) of their top 10 opponents (or at least i was working down the list). You will have to read the whole thread and I am too busy to keep going for now, but i would love to hear some opinion by McVey, Janitor and some of the others on some of the matches and comparisons.

    To make things easier, below is the list provided in the discussion of 10 best opponents. I was up to Rosenbloom vs O Brien in the comparison.


    Greb vs Fitzsimmons
    Gene Tunney vs Jim Corbett
    Mike Gibbons vs Non Pareil Jack Dempsey
    Tommy Gibbons vs Joe Choynski
    Micky Walker vs Tom Sharkey
    Maxie Rosenbloom vs Philadelphia Jack O Brien
    Kid Norfolk vs George Gardner
    Battling Levinsky vs Peter Maher
    Jack Dillon vs Gus Ruhlin
    Billy Miske vs Jim Hall
    Jimmy Slatterly vs Harris Martin
     
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  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I completely disagree
     
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  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think Creedon and McCarthy were better than Martin. And he fought them in more serious fights.

    I really don't think it's clear at all who's the best out of Creedon, McCarthy and Hall. Perhaps McCarthy since he's the only one of the 3 with a win over either of the others anywhere near their prime.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Tunney [better all round]
    Gibbons[cleverer boxer and a little bigger]
    Gibbons [size advantage,but if Joe lands solidly]
    The next two matches are tossups imo
    Norfolk [not confident on this one]
    Maher[I think he would land something big]
    Ruhlin was very inconsistent on his best night he could win anything less and Jack beats him.
    Miske
    Slattery I'm not up to speed with Martin, so I picked Jimmy.

    Great thread BTW
    Moi? I'm undecided!
     
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  14. KuRuPT

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    Good fight. Toss up
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Arguably two of th top 5 greatest P4P.

    Contrary to what some think, I believe Greb's chances are better the longer this goes. At his peak, Harry started well and got faster as the rounds passed. Fitz seemed to like a more static target which he will not find in Greb. Otherwise, really not much of a size difference. Fitz is a few inches taller but reach and weight are relavitvely similar. I tend to thinks Greb could take this, but am susceptible to being swayed.
     
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