Bob Fitzsimmons vs Jake LaMotta

Twice the 1st time he outweighed himby

Twice .The 1st time he outweighed Ray by16lbs ,the 2nd time [their3rd fight],he outweighed him by15lbs.
Given those advantages Fitz would annihilate Jake.
At165lbs he ko'd 180lbs Peter Maher in1 rd . The same weight disparity as Jake enjoyed in his favour against Robinson.

Fitz nearly killed Ruhlin who was too ill to leave MSG and spent the night on a cot, lapsing in and out of consciousness with a Doctor in attendance in case he died .
1900-08-10 : Bob Fitzsimmons 158 lbs beat Gus Ruhlin 195 lbs by KO at 2:10 in round 6 of 25

• Location: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, USA
• Referee: Charlie White

Attendance:15,000 plus SRO

• Bout summary: [1]

Ruhlin collapsed in his corner and was not fully revived for so long a time that it was feared he had died. The fight was held under incredible heat. It was over 100F. outside the arena, as the city was caught up in one of the worst heat waves on record. Some 35 deaths were reported from heat stroke.

In a post-fight interview at his hotel with a reporter from the Brooklyn Eagle, Fitz said, "...[Ruhlin] is a monstrous big fellow, but you know the old saying, 'The bigger they are, the further they have to fall.'..."

 

That "solar plexus" punch should have been called "the luckiest punch ever thrown by a pheomelanin overdosed genetic mutant". And KOing Mr Fancy Pants Corbett shouldn't be considered all that big a deal, IMO.

Robinson's weights are irrelevant. LaMotta fought big guys who didn't knock him out. Fitzsimmons wouldn't have either but whatever...we'll never know anyway.

 

Why was it lucky? He did the same thing to Sharkey twice.
Which big guys did Jake fight who didn't stop him?

 

Bob Satterfield, who fought at HW, and who LaMotta KO'd.

 

I just don't see Corbett as a viable boxer. 18 fights of record? KO'd 4 times, at least. Yes, he smacked some guys around but FFS watch his videos. I recognize that he fought in another time and place, but he looked so hittable
with his chin in the air, flailing around with wide open arms...he just looks terrible. I appreciate his place in boxing history, but knocking him out shouldn't have been, and wasn't , a big deal to any viable boxer outside of a ring set up in a country club. That's why Fitzsimmons KO'd him. He beat a good opponent in Choynski, that I'll admit, but by how much did he outweigh him? I don't really know. Come on, beating a fat, old drunken has been like John L. Sullivan was at the time means nothing. Hell, a decent Ward Bond would have put up a better fight.

 

No he wasn't.

He was KOed by Fitz, KOed by Jeffries (in round 23), and stopped a second time by Jeffries when Corbett was totally shot.

I don't seeing how a middleweight KOing someone is unimpressive because an over 200Ib champion did it, and took longer.

And while we are counting KOs, Bob Satterfield was KOed 8 times by sub 180Ib opponents.

 

WTF

 

dont even try to argue with them. they are Living in a Fantasy world.

lets be serious: go to your local gym. bring your Laptop. when the Boxing class starts, do the following: wait till Sparring starts, walk over to the Trainer and Show him your Laptop. tell him he should tell his fighters to fight like fitzi and corbett…….cause after all, the fighters of the pioneer era were badass as badass can be. or better yet, just hop into that ring yourself and corbett the **** out of the bums with their pathetic modern Training Methods.

im a boxer myself. i have over 90 Boxing and kickboxing Matches. i have trained fighters myself. just use logic: if that style of the corbett/fitz era is soooooooo great, teach it. make a Million bucks. become world famous. be the man.
reality check: fight that way today and you get your ass kicked. fitz was a pioneer. for that he deserves respect. but like most Things of over 100 years ago, they cant compete with the modern. fitz fought in an era where the Sport was in it s infancy. it wasnt even a real Sport back then. it was still outlawed in some places. it was mostly practiced by thugs and drunks.
lamotta was on a totally different Level. watch his second fight with bob murphy, how he turned cutie and totally outboxed irish bob. lamotta could do it all and had perhaps the best chin ever. Picking fitz to beat him is simply uneducated.

 

I disagree lots of ex fighters, trainers etc..here boxing has changed no doubt but not as much evolution as adaption.......the circumstances, equipment and lack of safety rules resulted in completely different styles....this is the era were movement was limited by ring material, leather shoe soles and resin, no real mouthguards, they grappled more, gloves were 4-5oz horse hair leather mitts. I myself saw huge changes in gloves from the 70-80's when thumbless gloves came around to preserve eyesight from thumbing(SRL retirement) and reduced power unintentionally, custom mouthguards have come around, standing eight counts, 15-12 round championship fights, sensationalism of the Duk Koo Kim death increased safety concerns, medical checks technology, weighs in have changed from same day to next day now where in the idea was fighters trying to dehydrate to make weight were a danger to themselves due to short recovery time unfortunately resulted in bigger fighters deyhydrating 20+ lbs and rehydrating 2 weight classes bigger by fight time

The quality of the fighter remains hence his ATG status and with modern circumstances would adapt to the changes.

 

You wouldn't have much success imitating Roy Jones Jr. either.

 

Fitz via Ko. LaMotta didn't hit hard enough and left himself open. While LaMotta had a good chin for 160 pounds, Fitz flattened durable bigger men.

 

i never mentioned jones. you did. but as i said, if old fitzi and corbett are "the ****", go to your local Boxing gym and hop into that ring. see what happens.

 

And if Roy Jones Jr. is any good try and copy him, and see how that works out.