Bob Foster v Kovalev & Stevenson?

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I say let Kov get a bit more seasoning before we consider Bob Foster.
     
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  2. Bummy Davis

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    this is the way I see it
     
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  3. Mendoza

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    Foster is going to whip light heavies who can't punch very hard. These two can.

    We need to see more of Kovalev, but based on his power/skills and Foster's inability to take power, I'd favor Kovalev to beat Foster.

    I think Stevenson is a one handed type of fighter, and Foster would beat him. Stevenson though would have a puncher's chance.

    Doug Jones was a light heavyweight and he stopped Foster.

    Kovalev looks like the best light heavy since Roy Jones. And I think he hits harder than any light heavy Foster defeated.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    Bullsh*t! Jones weighed 182lbs when he faced the 3days notice replacement, 174lbs ,9 fight Foster. A simple "I was wrong," would be nice but not expected and no doubt not forthcoming.
     
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  5. Mendoza

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    Doug Jones started out as a light heavy. When I say he was a light heavyweight I am correct. No doubt he could have made 175 if he needed to.

    Technically you are correct that he was over the 175 limit when they fought. Doug Jones was NO puncher, and he stopped Foster at 182 pounds. I'll stand on my point that Foster had a questionable chin vs hitters.

    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jGL3HMVbCU[/url]

    30;35 mark to see Foster's end. Foster had legs like a new born dear, and a skinny body. Those builds usually do not take punches well. He's not lasting long vs Kovalev, and would need a stoppage well before round 8.

    Who was the hardest punching light heavyweight Foster defeated?

    Kovalev and Stevenson hit much harder than Doug Jones did...by a measurable margin.
     
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  6. The Mongoose

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    That's an interesting take on the situation after some of our disagreements.
     
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  7. mcvey

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    Probably Frankie DePaula.
     
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  8. mcvey

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    You seriously need to stop this stalking.
     
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  9. mcvey

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    Ali started out as a light heavy.
    Patterson stated out as a middle.
    Langford started out as a lightweight.
    Johnson as a welter.
    Burns as a welter.
    Fitz as a light middle.
    Charles as a middle.
    Tunney as a middle.
    Dempsey as a middle.
    Schmeling as a light heavy.
    etc etc etc.

    Which means exactly what?

    Jones had 19 fights around the light heavy limit and 21 as a heavyweight.
    Sandy Saddler had a similar build to Foster although smaller, he had no problem taking punches.
    Your comment is a sweeping generalization that has no basis in fact.
    Jones stopped a 9 fight novice Foster who had just 3 days notice for the fight.

    Foster did not show a questionable chin against Light Heavyweights which was exactly the point I made. He also went the distance with several heavyweight without being floored. you've been exposed here but haven't the grace to admit it, so predictable .
     
    mcvey, Apr 10, 2015
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  10. The Mongoose

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    What stalking? I replied to your post same as you did mine in the one punch knock out thread.

    I think its obvious you have a pronounced bias on the matter. You have argued vigorously with me that Bivins was a LHW but regarding Jones, are now arguing the exact opposite. Be consistent.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    Jimmy Bivins Global ID 9974 *** male birthdate 1919-12-06 death date 2012-07-04 (92) division light heavyweight stance orthodox height 5′ 9″ / 175cm reach 76″ / 193cm [url]
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    Doug Jones Global ID 9378 *** male birthdate 1937-02-27 division heavyweight stance orthodox height 6′ 0″ / 183cm reach 75½″ / 192cm [url]
    [/url]country USA residence New York, New York, USA birth place New York, New York, USA birth name Douglas David Jones
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    rounds boxed 289 KO% 48.78

    Q In which division would you categorize James J Braddock?
     
    mcvey, Apr 10, 2015
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  12. The Mongoose

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    You do know Kovalev is listed as a light heavyweight but is actually bigger than Jones, entering the ring at 188 and higher.

    A: Braddock was a light heavyweight when he was a light heavyweight and a heavyweight when he was a heavyweight.
     
    The Mongoose, Apr 13, 2015
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  13. Mendoza

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    Posted by mcvey
    You seriously need to stop this stalking.

    Mongoose,

    McVey is the king of double standards. Facts and cross examination do no matter with him. He'll take in what he likes and disregard the rest.
     
    Mendoza, Apr 13, 2015
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  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I just have a built in sewage detector that filters out your posts.
     
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