Bob Foster vs James Toney at heavyweight

Power punching is not the way you beat James Toney. I think Foster goes after him and gets eaten alive on the inside. Toney might stop him through accumulation.

 

i back bob. toneys best hw performances were sadly PED induced.,

 

And how does that make you pick bob?

That's like saying you pick against the guy with a Jetpack in a jumping contest.

 

well i am not what toneys peak ability is at HW, but I know bob can hold his own if come up a little short in winning a title.

I tinhk bob could manage an IBO type title though, if he was 21st century boy.

 

At heavyweight? Weighing 180 something? Who is he gonna beat In the 21st century? Golota? Rahman? Ruiz? Tua? Peter? Klitschkos?

They would manhandle and ragdoll him worse than Ali and Frazier did because they're even bigger and stronger and Foster tried to out muscle and outpunch Frazier, he didn't use his "lower weightclass-quickness" advantage like Patterson Holyfield toney or Jones.


Who did he actually beat at Heavyweight.
Bob did not just come up short at heavyweight. He looked straight up incapable at that weight. Not competitive.

He was so noncompetitive at HW vs ali and frazier that it didn't even look like a fair fight

 

thats ali frazier, two atgs.


clearly you think old rahman, 6 round sam peter etc are atgs too.

 

No.
You missed the point where Foster fought frazier and Ali in a way that would only getting pounded harder by modern heavies.

Foster didn't try to use the quickness advantage(he didn't really haven't)he tried to knock his HW opponents out as if they were LHW challengers. And that would mean an even more embarrassing defeat vs roided up modern Heavies.

If Foster fought like Patterson, spinks, Jones, toney or a young holyfield at heavyweight, then yeah I would give him a chance.

But coming in at 183 pounds and trying to take a David Tua or Samuel Peters head off is not going to work.

And it's definitely not going to work against toney who took shots from guys nearly twice Bob fosters size

 

i dont think old rahman and 6 round peter would trouble him. They would play into his hands. Bob could box, you know.

 

1. He could box but he didn't. He obviously thought the HWs would just go to sleep when he hit them like the LHWs did.

2. Even if he did box You don't think they would trouble him? What do you think happens when Rahman Tua Peter or any of the modern behemoths who have 50lbs of muscle on him lands on Foster? Even just to the body? Can you imagine the damage when Tua rips a hook to fosters thin ribs??

Are you saying foster goes 12 rounds without getting hit?


Foster was just not a good Heavyweight. In large part because he didn't try to gain any muscle and because he didn't alter his style either.

You're talking about a natural LHW who stayed natural vs natural HWs who were probably not even natural

 

I strongly back Toney by stoppage.

 

Very interesting matchup. Not sure how it would play out. Strong Heavyweight punchers were Foster's kryptonite. Toney had an excellent chin, but, wasn't a murderous puncher at Heavyweight. (Holyfield seemed to collapse from exhaustion more than anything.) Fight could go either way, but, likely a decision.

 

I agree. It could be an uneventful fight.

Close decision, based on a cautious, relatively low output from both fighters. I suspect Foster sits on the outside, behind his jab, waiting to drop the right; not getting caught up too often in Toney’s ‘hit-me-if-you-can’ moments.

As to who has the better of any exchanges, it's hard to say. Foster does more damage with anything he lands, whilst Toney's delivery looks flashier - although he's got to get inside Foster's range to do it.

 

Toney’s shots would do more damage. He broke Ruiz nose and gave Peter, Holyfield, and Jirov something to think about. Foster lost whenever he fought anyone decent over 175, Mena and Doug Jones included.

 

Toney would find a way inside and STOP Foster.