Bob Foster vs Patterson

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  1. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Once again, why this 'Floyd at Light Heavy crapola'? Once the early-mid 50's were gone, he was a heavy all the way! 182? against Archie. Slowly gained weight as his career progressed.
    And it seemed that right hand bombs, not LH's could be trouble for Floyd (Liston excepted but, that left hook from Sonny, right on the money, would have laid out virtually ANY ATG but Floyd got up.
    Oh? Is Foster's LH more powerful than Sonny's?...not!
    Best case for Foster 'nut huggers'? He drops Patterson with a LH. Floyd rises, recoups, and lays Foster out in a puddle, sooner than later.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm a huge Foster fan but I see Floyd getting him out of there with one of his gazelle left hooks .
     
  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very highly possible, just don't miss.
     
  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Because Foster was at his best as a LHW. It's speculation about how Patterson would have fared at 175 had he remained there . It's likely he'd have been an ATG at that weight. On the other hand, as he got older and matured that may have been too small of a weight for his body type in order for him to be fully effective which may have impacted his performance. From what I understand, that was the case with Max Schmeling who started as a light heavyweight. His performance improved when he moved to heavyweight because he was stronger and more efficient at the higher weight. I'd pick Foster to beat Schmeling at the lower weight, BTW.

    Other examples would be Charles and Moore who began as middle weights. I'd pick say Ray Robinson or RJJ to beat both at middle weight. At LHW or HW, I'd definitely pick both to beat Robinson and there chance against Jones will have skyrocketed.
     
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  5. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    "...and if the man I bet with will come forward I'll be glad to meet him for the first time. "


    Very cleverly ironic turn of phase. This whole thing is quite well written. Archie Moore was a smart guy.
     
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  6. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd could NEVER have remained a light heavy. He, quite simply, was the ultimate 'tweeny' which is why we love him so much!
     
  7. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd would kayo Bob in 5. Too much speed.
     
  8. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you saying he couldn't have dehydrated 5-10 lbs? It wouldn't have been that hard.
    Bob foster weighed about the same as floyd when he fought at heavyweight and went back down no problem.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Right, he wasn't in his prime as a LHW. Bob Foster was in his prime at LHW. So I'd pick the best LHW version of Foster to beat the best LHW version of Patterson.

    At heavy, Patterson was more formidable, so I'd pick him to beat Foster at that weight. Much like how I'd pick Patterson to beat Holyfield at cruiser weight, but at heavy, I'd pick Holyfield to beat Patterson.
     
  10. Rope-a-Dope

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    At LHW, Foster. At HW, Patterson. Despite being taller than Patterson, Foster's lanky body just wasn't as effective at heavier weights than Patterson.
     
  11. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Patterson could have made LHW. He always said he had to work his ass off to get close to 190. He went up to chase the money. Had he stayed at LHW he could have reigned as champ for a LONG time. And hed knock Foster out at LHW or HW.
     
  12. NoNeck

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    Foster never beat a single fighter who was over 175 and he tried plenty of times. He doesn’t finish the 4th round against Patterson.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    Yes the move was planned and not made out of necessity. They had their eye on Heavyweight very early in the piece.
     
  14. Ragamuffin

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    Patterson too quick for Bob. Early-ish KO for Floyd.
     
  15. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wasn't Floyd always a "cruiser weight"? Never scaled 200 in his career, maybe not even 195. And I'd still pick Floyd at LH against Foster even if he had to shed those 7-10 pounds. Liston & Ingo's best punches, which were 'down the pipe' SUNDAY bombs, didn't keep Patterson down unless you think Ingo's right hand on the money and Liston's arsenal (on the money) were less than Bob could offer. Lastly, if Floyd had fought at 175, do you really think Foster would have some sort of speed advantage? Have you even watched his Olympic effort thru his Mongoose victory...scaling between 168-182?