Bobby Cyzy Discussion

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I grew up watching Cyzy and felt that he was a very solid all around fighter. Some of my more memorable moments watching him were in lower profile bouts that most here probably haven't seen. His later fights with Uriah Grant and young olympic prospect Andrew Maynard were entertaining performances. Bobby had a nice all around combination of skill and durability. He wasn't particularly powerful, but he had enough sting to let his opponent know he was there. Was he an all time great? No. Probably not. He was however a key player during what I consider to be a very competitive lighheavyweight era and certainly an exciting fighter to watch if nothing else.
     
  2. MAG1965

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    I am not sure I can say Bobby is HOF. ATG probably not at all, and HOF maybe but a stretch. He lost to Virgil Hill and Charles Williams and Dennis Andries at his best weight. He was a good fighter, but losing to Dennis Andries does not make him an ATG or HOF. Hearns beat both Hill and Andries by the way, and Tommy came from 147 to do that. Bobby just could not deal with fast handed guys who boxed, and then Andries actually was stronger than Bobby when he fought him. Guys like Hagler and Hearns would have outboxed Bobby and stopped him easily enough. Bobby did beat guys like Maynard and Kacar. But when he went up against a really good guy he lost usually.
     
  3. Cachibatches

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    I don't mean to say this disresepctfully, but how old are you?

    I was in my boxing fan prime in the late 80's- through nineties. That was exactly how Czyz was perceived until he came back and moved up to cruiser. Then he was greatly appreciated for brigning life to a dead division. I think you had to be there, in an era very differnent from hindsight, to appreaciate it.

    Bobby was failure at middle, a marginal champ at light heavy, and a failure again at heavy, but at cruiser, he really found a niche.
     
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  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm 21 in a few weeks.

    If I was older I wouldn't be asking the question as I'd already know how he was perceived coming up, yes?
     
  5. Cachibatches

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    Liek I say, it was not meant as an insult.

    I really think Bobby came into his own when he became a crusier. No one expected him to come back after the second Charles Willams defeat, and when he beat Daniels, a pretty credible champ, to re-establish himself, he somehow won some prasie that he never had won before. For one thing, ehw asn't just reallying of the lighing in his right hand, he ********* Daniels to do it. And no matter how flimsy the grip on the titles, he became a two-division champion. I just odn;t hink you could call the man a soft touch after that.
     
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  6. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bobby Czyz was a damn good fighter.Great?no but he had a really good career.Loved that"shotgun" jab.Put Virgil Hill on his ass.People underrate him alot.Czyz was on the level of a Marvin Johnson-very good soild pro.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    It was funny, Bobby was so protected and overhyped initially it wasn't funny, a real network face. Then Hamsho brings everyone back down to earth by flogging him and people think he doesn't have the right stuff and intestinal fortitude. VERY suprisingly and ironically he comes back to be a damn decent fighter and tough as nails. They built him up to big and too soon then they tore him down just as prematurely.
     
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  8. MAG1965

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    Bobby never fought the top guys. But the way he lost to Prince Charles and Dennis Andries, the top guys would have beaten him easily.
     
  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Neither was an easy touch and Bobby was fighting well above his normal weight.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    True enough.
     
  11. lefthook31

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    Czyz was a good fighter, but never should have fought at heavyweight. Probably the only fighter ever to be a member of Mensa, and be a complete moron at the same time. Completely blew his career as a very good announcer by being a drunk. He was a bit of a Tyson nuthugger, but I always liked him on SHowtime.
     
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  12. MAG1965

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    Bobby made Lightheavy easily and comfortably and he was good if he fought good fighters, but when he stepped up and fought Charles Williams level or even Andries he had trouble.
     
  13. ThinBlack

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    He was a pretty good fighter, I remember seeing him fight Robbie Sims and that being a pretty good fight, unfortunately, Hamsho mauled him.I still feel that him and Alex Ramos would be a war if fought at 160.
     
  14. My2Sense

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    He was one of those guys who was solid in a number of different weight classes, but not great in any one of them.
     
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  15. tommy the hat

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    I am 37 years old now so I grew up in the 1980's. I also grew up in North Jersey, so quite naturally, I was a huge Bobby Czyz fan as a kid. I also used to see him train in the 1990s in the Elizabeth PAL when I used to box as an amateur. He might not be in te same category as a Michael Spinks or Evander Holyfield, but he was a two division world champion and was always tough for anyone to fight and will always be a favorite of mine.