Bobby Czyz today

Sure, Leibniz had similar ideas. Peter Van Inwagen is a Christian physicalist, if you can make sense of that.

Oddly enough it looks like a little over half of the very best logicians were theists of some sort. (Godel, Frege, Whitehead...)

 

Shame we don't have a lounge anymore. This could become a very long thread.

 

One thing I always dug about Bobby was his avocation for fairer scoring in boxing...

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I'm entitled to give my opinion if I want. Everyone around here does. You seem to contradict yourself here a bit at the same time taking a hard line.

 

explain how I contradict myself? On this subject it is hard to be sure. My dad was a scientist and he always told me what control the mind is the brain and blood supply and different parts of the brain, and my mom told us go to church and don't sin and go to confession. So I fight the logic against the belief which many people do. Most people telling us they are 100 percent sure there is an afterlife, I am not sure they are telling the truth.

 

My point was Bobby Czyz should not take people's hope away just because he thinks he is mensa or knows the most.

 

Bobby was a good fighter. I still appreciate him for whipping Andrew Maynard. I thought he was one of the better boxing analysts. Very knowledgeable except one night Tyson/Holyfield. He let something cloud his vision.
He is showing humility by going to work in a public setting. He played an part in his downfall but I respect what he's doing.

 

I am...its called faith. I dont need anything else

 

If one's faith is shaken by something as simple as another's non-belief, they never had much faith to begin with.

 

I speak my mind and I am honest. I cannot have total faith in something I cannot see. I wish I could.

 

It isn't about a great saying or having strong faith. It is about maybe discouraging young people who hear this comment which Bobby said.

 

There you have it. You lack faith. If you really had it you wouldn't need to see it

 

I am just saying how I feel. What people say and what they mean are sometimes two different things when it comes to faith.