Bodybuilding workout for boxing

Chins can be better in many ways because of the tremendous amount resistance it produces for your back. But if you have a strong back and weak biceps for example the need changes.. Everything you do should be done according to your needs. That being said, I myself rarely/almost never do bicep curls.
As I said before, the best movements for proportional and optimal strength gains are movements such as the clean and jerk. Exercises such as these require alot of practise though, since they are complicated movements.
Not being able to do these movements can be apt reasons for doing e.g. bicep curls.

No movements are useless, that was my real message.

 

Thanks Kolya, that's exactly what I meant.

RDJ - you misunderstand me, and are too quick to switch on the "anti-weight" answering machine my friend. I didn't mean bicep curls are the be all and end all, but if one does them anyway, they have a SLIGHT benefit on the elbow joint/muscle around the elbow, which plays a role in a punch, however slight, anything is a benefit. I never mentioned boxing skills, I meant stability in a punch.

 

Exactly what it says.

 

Ok, and that's a good message, but efficiency and productivity matter, so I'm not going to do an exercise just because it isn't completely inane and just almost completely.

 

functional is defined by using the muscles. Pull ups are functional because you use multiple muscles in a realistic way. Isometric machines are not, because they generally have unnatural movements and there is no range of motion.

 

isometric??? dont you mean isolation???

isometrics are done without any equipment.

 

yeah, my bad....isolation.....either way, the overall concept....

 

Consider this: you don't know how to do cleans, or you're too bashed up in your legs or back to do it. I mean, there can be countless reasons for a need to do a simple variation of a bicep curl.
You could also have it as an addition simply because your biceps are lagging, i.e. it could be haltering the progress in your back training because of it's role as an important synergist in rowing exercises.
Saying it's completely useless is like saying training biceps is completely useless, which is a very ignorant statement.

 

I never said it was completely useless. I agreed that no exercise is completely useless but that bicep curls were pretty close to being.

Now, 'consider this': If I am too injured to do a clean, I'm not gonna substitute in bicep curls.....:yep :yep

and why do curls to get better at rowing, chin ups, etc.? aren't you the one who said "nothing gets the same results like the same thing"?

 

Wrong. This is why I stopped posting on these training sections - MOST are idiots with wrong information.

Bicep curls are not worth doing (unless your unporportional and it's somehow hindering your ability to box..) and high reps low weight just works endurance - you want high weight low rep and lift explosively. High rep and low weight works the same thing as you hitting the heavy bag for an hour.. why do them both when you can just hit the ****ing heavy bag.

 

Sorry to go off topic, but how is your boxing progress going?

If I remember right, you are the feller that did some boxing in a school or something? I'm not trying to put you down, I'm genuinely curious on your current status.

 

Like I said, I was responding to the indirect statement that training biceps were useless. I was also stating that bicep curls (meaning all the different variations) have their place in a training program, just like everything else. It does not have equal importance, e.g. such as the squat or deadlift, but somehow denying that it can be pretty useful in some situations is uncalled for.
It's like saying: "Don't waste your time bending your arm, it's pretty much or completely useless."

Consider this: You incorporate one extra day of weight training because you want added progress, so you decide to have a day inbetween sessions where you work your small muscle groups.
Not a bad idea, because smaller muscle groups recuperate faster, considering that you didn't do lots of curls, skullcrushers or anything the previous day.

There are many ways you could be predisposed to not being able to do cleans. Something you could to is splitting up the movement, first doing deadlifts (or the clean pull), thereby doing reverse curls, front squats and jerks of a rack for example. Splitting it up like this and having progress in each exercise meant for each phase is a neat way for improving your overall strength and potential weight for that exercise.

Not quite, I said nothing but the same thing will do the same thing, saying that pullups isn't the exact same thing as a bicep curl.
But now that you mention it, say that you do rowing exercises for each workout, and you want your bicep to improve which thus will improve your back because of a higher potential of resistance usage in rowing exercises. In this case increased bicep strength would add for more resistance for the back, because a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link, eh?

 

Okay, you maybe right about that biceps curls thing. I always learned when you train with high weight, low reps you get big useless muscles (and muscles are heavy and most boxers don't want to be heavier). Oh and thanks for calling me an idiot, though guy:smoke

 

You should walk up to whoever told you that and knee him in the groin.

 

Ok, I will do that.