BOLD PREDICTION: In the next 12-18 months Billy Joe Saunders becomes P4P #1

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Absolutely not.
     
  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He’s already a more impressive resume along with some dominant performances than some of the recognised PFP top tenners.
    I won’t say anything bad about Crawford as he beat what was in front of him in a weak division and politically he had everything fall his way re become undisputed.
    That he’s moved up to Welterweight tells us Crawford a class act and PFP top three but some his fans can be insufferable at times by recognising Spence and Crawford as elite PFP guys whilst dismissing a guy like Saunders who already has a better resume than both Spence and Crawford,not hating it’s just a fact and when do you hear anyone give Saunders the credit and PFP status his resume and results have suggested.
     
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  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’m not jumping on the bandwagon after Saunders Lemieux victory cause to be sure along with guys like CST80 and James 5000 I’ve long thought Saunders could beat Canelo and Golovkin.
    Abel Sanchez thinks GGG relentless pressure and strength would be too much for him but I honestly don’t think GGG would lay many punches on him anyway.
     
  4. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    What's next, Kugan Kassius and KSI in your P4P too?
     
  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bandwagons always are,which is why CST80 and a few others on here have been singing his praises for a while now,thing is that stopped us going overboard was his mind and for a while it was looking like he was gonna do the same as his pal Tyson Furey?
    Something changed in him and to be sure Ingle giving him some hard work to do brought out his love of the sport again as with Saunders his talent was never in doubt but his mind seriously was.
    Even if I were on the bandwagon lol how can anyone try and suggest he’s being over rated when the real fanboys go on about Charlo who’s done nothing at the weight and yet Saunders has Eubank,Lee,Monroe,Lemieux and Spike on his record so even his win over Spike is better than anything Charlo done no?
    If he gets Canelo and GGG regardless of results his record at Middleweight and his opponents will be better than his peers like Jacobs ect.
     
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  6. IsaL

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    Maybe if he would actually fight top level opposition we wouldn't be so skeptical. I like what I saw in BJS against David Lemieux, but it was David Lemieux, not an elite fighter.

    BJS has priced himself out of two fights against the best MWs. Perhaps he should prove how good he is against the top players instead instead of ducking them before he starts talking like a top player.

    I don't know why some of you do that yo yourselves all the time, make predictions that are baseless.
     
  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So often in boxing it boils down to who you beat not what you’ve done as belts can be won against nobodies,who had heard of Indongo before his win over Burns?
     
  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't rate Lemieux, Monroe, Eubank, Spike or Lee very high. Yeah they are decent contenders at very best, but all those fights just prove he's a better contender than they are. The only very dominant fight he had was against Lemieux who has been beaten multiple ways.

    I hope BJS stops ducking elite MWs and proves what his bandwagon jumpers are claiming.
     
  9. Angler Andrew

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    You’re holding him to some lofty standards.
    I mean look he’d be the first to admit that he took the **** after winning the belt and I was very critical of him then but since getting his mojo back he’s gonna look to fight GGG and Canelo.
    Wasn’t his fault GGG took time off after Jacobs either,why not give us an example Isalwho you think is doing more at Middleweight right now?
     
  10. Angler Andrew

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    Ok Isal,can you mention other Middleweights who’ve fought better,it’s a genuine question as I can’t recall all the top ten Middleweights.
     
  11. junkhead

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    The closeness of the first fight had more to do with BJS gas tank then over anything Eubank did if I recall correctly (I saw the fight years ago so don’t take my word as gospel).

    I kind of agree BJS 2: Electric Boogaloo beats Eubank easier this time around.
     
  12. Angler Andrew

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    Come on Isal I’m waiting for your list of Middleweights who have done more.
    Strange you have Lemieux as his best win as I have Lemieux well being Lee and Eubank.
     
  13. IsaL

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    Come on what? Relax, I don't know about you but I have a life outside this forum.

    To respond to your 3 posts, a list of MW resumes is unnecessary.

    First off, Im arguing that Saunders hasn't proven to belong with the elite. He may very well be, but a lot of you BJS fans have gotten to ridiculous levels with the hype. Lol. CTFD, it was David Lemiuex.

    His resume is terrible for a sitting champion. Wins over regional level fighters, a former JCCjr victim, and another David Lemieux.

    For a contender coming up the ranks, yeah its a very decent resume when you consider how terribly poor the MW division was before the arrival of the elite JrMWs recently. He's ducked GGG already and just priced himself out of a fight with Jacobs, but we're seeing posts insinuating and in some instances flat out saying GGG and Canelo are ducking HIM? Lol.. The fanboyism radar is very high on that one.

    GGG, Canelo, Jacobs are better than him. If Saunders can replicate what he did against Lemieux or at the very least be competitive against a top fighter, than I can start buying into the hype.

    I personally never give any fighter full credit until they've earned it by fighting and beating the very best fighters in a division. ll BJS has done is beat some good but very limited fighters.

    I have nothing against BJS, just thinking the hype went hilariously overboard with threads and comments stating he would beat absolute Legends like SRR, Hearns, Hagler, Hopkins when his best win is David Lemiuex or Andy Lee. Lol
     
  14. minemax

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    No, I highly doubt that. Simply because, for one thing, he will be avoided by top fighters, than Saunders will lose motivation, become kind of overweight again, etc...
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Golovkin's win over Lemieux was way more impressive than Saunders......................Golovkin would cut off the ring and stop Saunders, so no way is Saunders P4P because he beat Lemieux...................damn, compare them..........