Bonavena vs Foreman 1970

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  1. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    In 1972, ALI beat CHUVALO with the Rope-A-Dope strategy.

    in a book published in 1992 or 1993. The RING magazine's Steve Farhood
    claimed Ali invented the rope-a-dope for the Foreman fight. Goes to
    show even those past experts sometimes invent fantasy stories,
    but it makes for a good read and some folks will buy it hook-line-and-sinker.
     
  2. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    George would destroy Oscar, Oscar comes straight at him and gets bounced off canvas.
     
  3. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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  4. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Durability isn't as big a question when fighting George as most people make it.

    Ali beat Foreman with his mind. He just literally refused to go anywhere, to be hurt, to back down, and with his conditioning.

    Chuvalo and Frazier and Lyle are durable sumbitches, and it helped them about zero. Against one of the best heavyweight hitters and killers ever, a great chin can only help so much.

    Add Ringo's relative slowness and poor defensive posture, and he's basically a big target. No way he makes it beyond five. I don't think he was any more durable than other fighters George finished early.
     
  5. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even if he did , so what ? stoppages mean much more .

    I watched both of d Ali vs Chuvalo fights , I read that Ali was hospitalized and peed blood after d fight , like a true winner :yep
    Chuvalo wasn't .
    Call it whatever u want .
    Also , Chuvalo was d agressor .
    Clean punching , effective aggressiveness , power punches connect percentage , u choose d criteria , Chuvalo won :deal
    Which shows u how biased poster u r .
    Bonavena got his ass handed 2 him by Ali , u say Chuvalo didn't do better .
    Their internal ranking is :
    Chuvalo
    Ali
    Bonavena

    clearly
     
  6. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmmm...upon further review I must change my stance. You are correct. The judges and refs were wrong on all counts. It was Chuvalo who really beat Ali, Bonavena and Frazier.

    Chuvalo= ATG.

    Thanks for clearing that up :silly
     
  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never claimed that Chuvalo beat Frazier nor Bonavena .
    His outcome vs Frazier is irrelevant due 2 a thumb .
    Vs. Bonavena i need 2c 2 believe so i still don't know , but won't take your word 4 it but as i stated : even if bonavena did beat chuvalo then chuvalo is still superior 2 him due 2 their outcomes vs ali .