"Boogieman"Bakole 3rd ducking of Hrgovic makes no sense, even if so called injury is real

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Haviton, Nov 16, 2023.


Is Bakole really injured or is he lying

  1. He is severely injured, no need to risk his health with Hrgovic, no matter the perks

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  2. He is moderatley, injured, still no need to risk his Boogieman status, no matter the perks

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  3. He is lightly injured, why risk it for mandatory position and status and money

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  4. He lying

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  1. Haviton

    Haviton Member banned Full Member

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    In the past IBF went through 2 rounds of ordering top 10 contenders into a fight with Hrgovic
    1. round: Hunter, Ruiz, Parker, Martin, Joshua, Joyce, Sanchez, Ortiz, Gassiev, Kabayel, H.Fury, McKean and Bakole all refused, in that round Yoka accepted, but Martin Bakole stole him
    2. round: everyone till 14th opponent, Zhilei Zhang refused Hrgovic, including Bakole
    Now, Bakole built up his CV, having wins over Tony Yoka, Hrgovic arch enemy from amateurs from which he lost 2 times, celebrating once. And Carlos Takam. He tried to call out Dylan White, but nothing of the sorts happened.

    Furthermore, he had a chance to fight Hunter (called by winner Hunter few months ago), Bakole stayed silent. What is he waiting on?

    His highest ranking is on WBA list, there he is number 2. below Wilder, who would never accept that fight. Also, that federation has Interim champ Charr, who is supposed to fight Miller, or winner of Dubois-Miller. I doubt Wilder would ever be ordered to fight number 2. Bakole for interim champ, at least not in the next year. Also Wilder has options, and is ranked number 1 WBC.

    Then again, Day of Reckoning, Saudi money for that fight would be very tempting, Bakole has no plans, and is claiming injury, or at least that is what some people are saying. Even though, he could heal, December 23 is long ways away, and he is already warmed up from a month ago, or 20 and so days since Fury-Naganou undercard.

    Also, to reject that kind of fight would imply injoury is severe (Jone Jones tore his chest muscle for example) Bakole said nothing about this. Did he hurt his shoulder, knee or toes?

    Also, second bigger reason, with money, he gets to do one other thing: - fight Joshua for IBF interim or full title, or straight up go on winner of Usyk (whom he had defeated in sparring) or even better cash cow called Tyson Fury.

    Really strange from Boogieman of Heavyweight divison, or should I say, Sparring champion of the World
     
    Haviton, Nov 16, 2023
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  2. BlackDog

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    Where from coming news about injury?
    I dont find that information.

    For sure Bakole ducked Hrgovic in past. They said that time that 7 weeks is too short for preperation or smth.

    Hrgovic is real boogyman of Hw for sure. List of boxer avoid fight with him is pretty long and there is lot of top boxers.
     
    BlackDog, Nov 16, 2023
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  3. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The notion that people are ducking Hrgovic is laughable, considering his most recent performances. I think he's good but c'mon. ...

    As for Bakole, who knows. Maybe he's hurt or his wife is pregnant or something else. But I doubt he's physically afraid of Hrgovic. This is something that fans love to discuss but is usually pretty silly.
     
    Lesion of Doom, Nov 16, 2023
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  4. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Yes... Because all this boxers got better options than fighting for IBF mandatory dont they?
    I think silly is good word but not for thoose who call it "duck"
     
    BlackDog, Nov 16, 2023
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  5. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IBF mandatory is worth what, exactly? Just look at how long Hrgovic has been sidelined.

    Fighters turn down bouts all the time because the money isn't right. I agree that these guys avoided Hrgovic, but I disagree -- and think it's silly -- that people are afraid of him. But they want to be properly compensated to fight a strong opponent and Hrgovic has been very poorly managed. He has no box office appeal at all. Do you disagree?
     
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  6. Kratos

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    Bakole was out of shape and recovering from an injury while fighting Takam, no way he's ready to fight the top fighters right now, he needs to lose 30 pounds.
     
    Kratos, Nov 16, 2023
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  7. BlackDog

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    IBF mandatory give You chance to box for belts and big money. That's pretty good if u think that You can beat him. Its investment for future. Its chance to earn a lot, become champion and proof You are top boxer.

    Nothing more needed here.

    And Yes Filip wait for shoots pretty long. That's because other federation got already official pretendents too and IBF contender fight for belt not soo long ago.
     
    BlackDog, Nov 16, 2023
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  8. Haviton

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    Come on, 1-5 fighters, ok, but 15+, that is pure ducking
     
    Haviton, Nov 16, 2023
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  9. Haviton

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    before it was useless, now, as next in rotation, Usyk-Fury had to sign agreement to avoid Hrgovic activation and IBF meddled in, said no rematch or stripping is due, and AJ going after Wallin, it seems it is worth a lot
     
    Haviton, Nov 16, 2023
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  10. Mazza

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    Bakole likes facing guys the same age as him like Takam. He don't want smoke with the young Hrgovic.
     
    Mazza, Nov 16, 2023
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  11. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Martin actually is pretty young if I good remeber soo...
     
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  12. Mazza

    Mazza New Member banned Full Member

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    I'm not believing it till I see his birth certificate:lol: He looks in his 40's!
     
    Mazza, Nov 16, 2023
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  13. BlackDog

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    He is youngster!
    Got 30 years old :sherlock:
     
    BlackDog, Nov 16, 2023
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