Book about Tyson-Lewis 2002 Superfight

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seeing him cry out in pain and yelling "no, no" was rather pathetic IMO. If Frazier had a heart the size of a mountain Tyson's was the size of a pea. :lol:
     
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  2. HerolGee

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    it wasn't a superfight. it was more like Tyson-holmes.
     
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  3. michaeldokes

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    It would have been a SUPER super fight if Lewis wasn't so great on that night and Tyson could have landed a few more clean shots :)

    The event was hugely anticipated. Tyson was the ultimate villain, and Lewis represented the force of good. The fight actually was almost 20 years in the making because they sparred together in Catskill as teenagers and Cus remarked that weekend that someday you two will fight for the heavyweight championship of the world. Lewis and Tyson were both fascinating contrasting characters and talents.
     
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  4. michaeldokes

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    Tyson vs. Spinks still should be considered a superfight, even though it lasted 90 seconds. Because it was a historical performance by Iron Mike, the defining performance of his great career. One of the most explosive performances in HWT history.
     
    michaeldokes, Mar 3, 2015
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  5. HerolGee

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    Tyson was the convicted ****** and lewis was the closeted gayface.

    it truly was a fight of contrasts.
     
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  6. Brighton bomber

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    You are right, pretty much every knowledgeable fan or pundit had Lewis as the big favourite it was simply Lewis ticking an unchecked box and putting Tyson's name on his record. In terms of legacy for those who follow the sport it meant little, it was an event, not a competitive fight.

    Betting odds, especially on big crossover fights are never a true reflection of what the fighters actual chances are of winning. You will have casual fans throwing money on the fight who know next to nothing about the sport. It's like when people bet on the Grand National or the Kentucky Derby. They never usually bet but for this special event they do as it's what everyone else is doing. Hence why the odds were so close in the lead up to Lewis/Tyson.
     
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  7. impacted

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    Laughing at the image of 5'10, 220 pound Tyson being the 'big bully' against guys ranging from 2-7 inches taller and 10-30 pounds heavier. Tyson's achievements were phenomenal considering his physical disadvantages in all but one of his fights.
     
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  8. michaeldokes

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    Yes it is easy to see in hindsight. And it did seem Lewis would dominate Tyson easily but there was the underlying fear for Lewis backers that Mike could land the one critical bomb and Lewis would crumble. I was absolutely sure Lewis would win but you never know what will happen in the moment of truth. The mystique and pride of a great champion like Tyson and his punching power were easy to write off with fickle predictions but to actually risk your hard earned money against Tyson is a different story.
     
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  9. michaeldokes

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    Did you ever see the Dempsey-Willard fight? :)

    Agree, for how important height and reach are in boxing, how Tyson overcame his physical limitations with intelligence, tactics and intensity was remarkable and amazing.
     
    michaeldokes, Mar 3, 2015
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  10. Foxy 01

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    This might be true, though I have my doubts. Tyson had NO chance, and not because Tyson was as shot as his fan boys claim. Oscar / Mayweather ended in a SD.

    If you find technical boxing matches boring, that is your choice. But it is ONLY your opinion, other people like might that kind of fight.
     
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  11. Foxy 01

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    Gays don't BREED 4 kids you numpty.

    Though in your case they might well have bred 1.:rofl:rofl
     
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  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You talk about subjective "fanboys" but objectively, Tyson WAS shot by 2002. Tyson is not one of my favorite fighters, but it is so clear in this case. Tyson, in his prime, had the speed and power and defense, to be a serious threat to the skilled, but shaky chinned Lewis. But by 2002, Tyson couldn't put these skills to full use like he could in his prime.
     
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  13. michaeldokes

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    Saad, Tyson also did not have near the same confidence or aura. Though he was still dangerous. A puncher is always dangerous - as Foreman showed. Also the politics seemed to be with Tyson and against Lewis, as Emanuel Steward alleged after the fight. It sure did seem Eddie Cotton was favoring Tyson in the fight. And if Tyson landed one and dropped Lewis, a quick stoppage would not have been a surprise at all.
     
    michaeldokes, Mar 3, 2015
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  14. michaeldokes

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    It just seemed like one of those fights where they did not go all out on purpose, a business fight. No urgency, no desperation, like an unwritten non verbal contract. Weird fight. A lot of Mayweather fights are weirdly low intensity, low pressure and slow paced - perfect for Floyd
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, but I remember at least one, maybe two, of the pundits who worked for SKY BOX OFFICE that night said Tyson was going to win. I'm pretty sure Glenn McCrory was one.

    And almost the entire British sports press and presenters of all UK channels called it Lewis's "defining fight" and "legacy defining".

    So, it just goes to show ....
     
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