Books & articles

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Freddy Benson., Dec 17, 2022.


  1. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Yesterday started reading Herol Grahams autobiography,never knew he got beaten by Tony Sibson in the amateurs
     
  2. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ow! Hey, you are Christopher Smith from the book, my girl gave me your book a few months ago, I still didn´t have the time to read I must say, had no ideia you posted here (well not like I have been here recently anyway).

    I see that you now have a portuguese version (mine is the english one), let me tell you, you are a hero my friend, thank you for the job.
     
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  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those braille books are a service to judges based in Las Vegas and the UK, occasionally elsewhere.
     
  4. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    :lol: I also think it’s pretty clever how “they” set it up for the judges to attend predesignated libraries to collect their “under the table” cash payments from inside the pages of those very same books (braille book in question pre-specified also, of course).
     
  5. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a great book Vic, you'll enjoy when you get chance to read.
     
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  6. Freddy Benson.

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    Almost finished Jon Hotton's Years of The Locust: A True Story of Murder, Money and Mayhem in the Last Age of Boxing. Rick Parker, Mark Gastineau, Tim 'Doc' Anderson and the associated sleaze.

    Brings to mind Jimmy Cannon's "boxing is the red light district of sports."
     
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  7. nyterpfan

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    If you have a chance pick up a copy of "The Devil and Sonny Liston"--by Nick Tosches. It's an engrossing book--(although if you're looking for something "upbeat" this ain't the book for you LOL!!) Tosches has a unique writing style--he really focuses more on Sonny as an individual rather than as a fighter. It's dark and depressing--kind of a mirror image of Liston's life. But you come away from it feeling much more sympathetic towards him. He never really had any true happiness in his life!
     
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  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My brother and I often exchange offbeat books (and often on boxing) for Christmas, and he got me that one a few years ago.

    Author has an odd writing style but you get used to it.

    It’s a fascinating topic with some fascinating characters (particularly Rick Elvis Parker).

    I don’t necessarily fall on the ‘Tim is an innocent victim here’ side of things — I mean he took a gun there for a reason, and oddly enough he’s also apparently dating Rick’s sister and took her along (and her kid I think? Been a while since I read it).

    And I have trouble believing Tim is tagging along for all this stuff all the time while Parker is having huge cocaine parties and Doc is just being an innocent guy in the corner. I think he was part of the circus, but that’s neither here nor there.

    The thing I’d really like to know is Tim took a handheld recording device and it was running during the murder. It was thrown against a wall or something and broke the recorder, but it had a tape and presumably that could be salvaged/restored/respooled and played. I’d really like to know what’s on that tape so we’d have a clear picture of just what was (and wasn’t) said before Doc started shooting.
     
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  9. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still just my own Library and Resources, I want the JJW and Tony Zale books, not too interested in any else though I have both had and read a good few over the years. My fav being Facing Ali, a veiw of Ali and his Fights as told by his Opponents.

    Reports and people who were actually there, it doesn't get any closer than that!
     
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  10. Thread Stealer

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    The Verge- Fighting Dirty

    About Terry Norris and brain damage from boxing

    https://www.theverge.com/2014/3/26/5447466/

    SB Nation- Gold in the Mud

    About James Scott

    https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/3/12/5496096/james-scott-jailhouse-boxer-profile

    Phoenix New Times articles about Michael & Danny Carbajal. It’s probably more of true crime articles than boxing ones. Danny seems like a real piece of ****.

    https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/family-secrets-6430844
    https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/brothers-keeper-6445723
     
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  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  12. Freddy Benson.

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    It's a fascinating story and I remember reading about the nature of Mark Gastineau's fights at the time (Boxing Illustrated magazine I think). Seems to take place against a wider backdrop of fixed fights, corruption and dodgy promoters that was being openly discussed and investigated again in the 90s media. And Rick Parker was involved in the early part of Foreman's comeback. The whole thing encompasses so many themes - race, corruption, murder, the cons, the fraudulent nature of the sport, etc.

    Amazes me that no one had killed Parker before that! Jack Newfield called him “the missing link between boxing and professional wrestling.” If Bert Cooper had won against Holyfield! That's a question too - just how 'innocent' do people see Anderson as.
     
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  13. newurban99

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    Baldwin wrote about Liston with more insight and feeling than anyone else. On that same subject of Patterson-Liston I recommend Norman Mailer's "Presidential Papers" which has a long, atmospheric chapter on the buildup to the fight, the fight itself and its aftermath. The chapter is titled "On Death".
     
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  14. Saintpat

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    One thing that annoyed me about the author’s style (or perhaps lack of boxing vocabulary is a better description) is he referred to every single result the same way. I can’t remember what the exact wording was, but it was something awkward like:

    by knockout in round two.

    And he might list several results in a row like saying “Foreman beat this guy by knockout in round two, and this other guy by knockout in round four, and this third guy by knockout in round one …” and never vary it to say something like “knocked him out in the second round” or “stopped him in two” or “second-round knockout.”

    I’m sure I got his particular wording wrong, but I know it was the same in every single reference in the entire book, of which there were countless.

    That being saiid, the writer has a style all his own (the above aside) and after you get used to it, it reads pretty well.
     
  15. newurban99

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    The piece about Virgil Akins fascinated me. I'll have to pay another visit to YouTube to watch his fight with Vince Martinez.
     
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