Borenard And Wlad: The Double standard

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  1. Brendan

    Brendan Active Member Full Member

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    Both guys are extremly cautious, tactical fighters. Both clinch alot. Wlad has a higher KO percentage.

    How does Borenard get a free pass for being so boring?
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Because he is 43 years old and has to conserve stamina.

    Hopkins in his prime was not boring at all.
     
  3. Kaki

    Kaki Guest

    holy ****.. i'm goddamn tired of these comparisons. it speaks of ignorance on the part of the TS.

    Hopkins, even at 43, is 100 times the boxer that Wlad is. let's see a Hopkins vs. Pavlik-like performance from Wlad. we never will.

    edit: let's also not confuse the defensive abilities of either boxers as being on equal terms. Wlad flails his arms and runs straight back (some people say this is extremely good footwork.. my ass) and he can't counter to save his life.
     
  4. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    FAIL.

    Wlad has huge physical advantages over his opponents that no other fighters have at 200 on down. Look at the face off before they fight. His opponents are looking up at him like they are looking up at a skyscraper.

    Hopkins is the opposite. He usually is undermanned whether it's age, stamina, hand speed, etc. He has to compensate for this by being as slick and as tricky as he can be. But Hopkins also has shown that when he knows he can take a guy out, he will try. Look at the Pavlik fight. Look at the Tarver fight. He let his hands go in spurts.

    Thanks for playing though.
     
  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad is a 100% calculated *****.
     
  6. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins can move, throw combos, and defeats opponents with a tactical brilliance.

    Wlad is tall.
     
  7. Brendan

    Brendan Active Member Full Member

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    Shite, he was boring back in the 90's. Occasionally, he'd fight a slow, shitty fighter and let loose, but I've seen plenty of boring 'Nard fights from the 90's up to now.
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nard hasn't really gotten a free pass. He's been called boring and cautious many times. He's just a legend where Wald at this point is not. No one really appreciated Bernard until his win over Tito which was well into his career.
     
  9. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    They are both ****in borin......No double standard!!!
     
  10. Brendan

    Brendan Active Member Full Member

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    Hopkins looked good against a doughy Pavlik that really belonged at 160, yes.
     
  11. Brendan

    Brendan Active Member Full Member

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    Borenard is boring. Thank YOU for playing.
     
  12. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I suggest that you go and watch more Hopkins.

    Or at least tell me what fights of his were "boring".
     
  13. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    its also bhop's competition...i mean, trinadad, rjj, taylor x2, winky, odlh, pav, tarver, joe..

    wlad's competition pales in comparison...and that's not wlad's fault either but it is what it is
     
  14. Brendan

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    Wright
    Eastman
    Taylor - Both
    Allen
    Joppy
    Holmes
    Vanderpool
    Council
    Acuino

    ****, he even somehow made a Calzaghe fight boring.
     
  15. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    and how many of bhop's opponents were on the p4p list at some point? again, its not wlad's fault that the hw division is down except for him and vitali, but still, bhop has been in w/ the best