Borenard And Wlad: The Double standard

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  1. Brendan

    Brendan Active Member Full Member

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    prezactly.
     
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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I seriously thought all of those fights were more exciting than Wlad-Chagaev with the possible exception of the Eastman fight.

    And Wlad-Chagaev wasn't even Wlad's most boring fight.

    Personally, it doesn't bother me that Wlad's boring, as I view his approach as one that is intelligent.

    Hopkins and Wlad are both smart in this regard, as they both understand their own limitations.

    Wlad just happens to have more limitations than Hopkins, which makes his fights more predictable and less exciting.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jun 22, 2009
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  3. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Not even close!:rofl:lol::rofl:lol: That still doesnt mean I dont respect the man's skills.

    I like how you nit-picked through B-hop resume to fit your agenda...FAIL!:good
     
    Rudyard, Jun 22, 2009
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  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Both great fighters imo, but Wlad isn't as slick as 'Nard, and Brendan is a ****wit or just someone who doesnt understand boxing if he thinks a 90s BHOPs is boring

    Bottom line with Wladdy, if someone can't force there way inside or mid range and hit him we won't see him in an exciting fight, thats because his advantage is on the outside, simple
     
    PowerPuncher, Jun 22, 2009
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  5. vonBanditos

    vonBanditos MĪƒderator Full Member

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    It's a stupid thread. Bernard has received a lot of criticism for being boring; Klitschko is not unique in being described as being boring. Nobody praised Bernard's performance when he fought Morrade Hakkar.
     
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  6. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :-( He'll fight anybody at heavy except his brother which is understandable. Haye backed out.
     
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  7. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What do you call faking a low blow to garner point deductions and a rest when you are fatigued?
     
    Stovepipe, Jun 22, 2009
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :lol:

    I just loved the fact that King found a French Muslim to fight Hopkins at the time the Iraq war was getting underway.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jun 22, 2009
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  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    A ring veteran.

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, Jun 22, 2009
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  10. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is almost an insult to our boxing intelligence. Listen, Bernard is a slick, most sneaky and old-schooled toughster, fundamentally sound, solid technically and superbly conditioned, whereas Wladimir fights european-upright-amateurish style, sure Klitschko has size and huge punching power but ask yourself who throws more powerpunches ( just to make it right, a powerpunch is any punch other than a lead-jab)... It has nothing to do, Bernard is called boring b'cause people hate his guts when he beats those guys ( you know who they are) and Wladimir is boring for any specialist or not. What a basic comparision. Hatton also called Mayweather boring and JCC wanted to kayo that boring Whitaker, oh God...
     
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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Hopkins is 44 years old that's why.:deal To even ask this question is ridiculous.
     
    Pimp C, Jun 22, 2009
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  12. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Right. Double Standard. When Hops fakes low blows to incite point deductions to get a rest, he is a ring veteran. Fine.

    So when Francisco Lorenzo acts to get a DQ win over Humberto Soto, then that is a "ring veteran" too.

    But let Wlad use his jab to stay out of trouble and break a man down and he gets called names. Its a clear double standard.
     
    Stovepipe, Jun 22, 2009
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  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Incidentally, is ANYONE seriously claiming that Wlad-Chagaev was more exciting than Hopkins-Pavlik?

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, Jun 22, 2009
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  14. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well Brendan just said how the things really are:lol:

    **** I laughed my ASS OFF while reading cry babies defending Bernard and trying to slack Wlad...:lol::lol:

    Well done TS:good
     
    JohnAkiBoa, Jun 22, 2009
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  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    It really isn't, and I am hard-pressed to see how any reasonable observer can seriously take this position.

    Hopkins always gets criticized for his "boring style".

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, Jun 22, 2009
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