Both Mayweather and Pacquiao DUCKED Khan, both Berto and Bradley smaller money fights

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    They're about equal in height and reach and at this point Khan is quicker and faster, something Mayweather hasn't tapped at any point in his career.
    I'm of the opinion that Mayweather has immense skill.
    I however, unlike the fanboys would have liked to have see it on display against somebody like Khan who has the speed edge and who's height and reach rivals Mayweather.

    Its much easier to implement skill on fighters who physically don't matchup to you.
    To implement such skill on a fighter who's your height and reach, and who's quicker and faster than you are, is a whole other ballgame (see Marquez vs Pacquiao) now that's pure skill out on display vs a fighter who's physically superior.

    Mayweather never put himself on the line like that!
     
  2. VG_Addict

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    Floyd would just adjust to Khan.

    If Garcia and Algieri can time Khan, Floyd can.

    Floyd hasn't fought someone faster than him? It's not his fault he's faster than most other fighters.
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    A knowledgeable observer which I consider myself (been a fans for well over 30 years) a fan knowledgeable knows that Khan is very unlikely to go about fighting Mayweather or Pacquiao, as he fought Garcia or even Algieri.
    Example.....Holyfield took the fight and went to war with Bert Cooper. He was trying to take Coopers head off and put him away before it was time. Cooper then timed and landed s shot on the temple of Holyfield that nearly stopped him.

    Holyfield didn't and doesn't go into a Tyson fight with the same warfare mentality that he did vs Cooper. Fighters just don't!
    Fighters don't grant the same respect to Cooper that they do Tyson, and for Holyfield the results are a more focused and disciplined type of gameplan that resulted in a more complete and dominating performance against Tyson than had been against the much lesser Bert Cooper.

    I've been a fan to long and you're not going to tell me that Khan doesn't step into a ring with either Mayweather or Pacquiao with a totally different mindset and focus than he would enter against lesser fighters like Garcia and Algieri.

    Khan is a talented fighter with physical attributes in his favor.
    If I were in Mayweather's shoes, I like Mayweather may not want to find out what a more focused and disciplined Khan could do in the ring.........and you know that any fighter on the planet is going to enter a ring against a Mayweather or Pacquiao type a hell of a lot more focused and at the very least attempt to fight more disciplined.

    Most fighters are not as fast as Mayweather, but why avoid one that comes along????

    Ever heard of the phrase, "the fighter that goes to the body usually cant take it there."???
    Fighters who have always been accumtomed to being the quicker and faster fighter may find themselves lost when they're not.
     
  4. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think Khan can fight any other way. He's one-dimensional. He doesn't look good on the back foot, and has no inside game.

    I don't see Khan as all that talented. And don't give me that "He won a silver medal at 17" ****. ****ing Audley Harrison won a gold medal.

    Really, the only reason Khan is given a chance is because Floyd and Pacquiao are old. When Khan fights people in their prime, he struggles, as seen in the Garcia, Prescott, and Algieri fights.
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Watch Khan vs Marco Antonio Barrera, not for Khan dominating MAB, but just look at how much more focused and disciplined Khan goes about it than vs most other fighters.

    Now ask yourself why Khan fought a past it MAB who was fighting out of his weight class like that?
    Why was Khan disciplined, jabbing, lateralling, and using the whole ring like that.
    Why did Khan fight that way against a past it, smaller MAB, but didn't use that type of gameplan vs Garcia?????

    I'll tell you why. His name is Marco Antonio Barrera, and the name alone commands respect and that results in fighters fighting more disciplined as they otherwise might not against other fighters who haven't made a name for themselves in boxing.

    Khan could have taken the fight to MAB and likely been to big and strong for him, but he didn't because he viewed MAB as an established fighter who could make him pay if he made a mistake.

    No question that Khan would go about fighting Mayweather and Pacquiao with the same kind of mindset that he employed vs MAB.
    Go take a look at that fight.
     
  6. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You just proved my point. Khan shines against shot fighters. He struggles against prime fighters.
     
  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who has Khan beaten at ww where he even deserved a fight with Pac or Floyd?

    Answer: Nobody
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have blinders on that you totally missed the point.

    Let me put it this way, why did Khan fight totally within himself, so disciplined, taking less chances vs a well past it MAB, then he did vs a powerful young puncher like Garcia????

    Your blinders prevented you from seeing the point that Khan fights a more focuse,conservative and disciplined fight against fighters that have established a name for themselves.

    If Khan were to fight Mayweather, Pacquiao, or even an ancient JMM, you best believe he's going to fight a lot more disciplined than he would a Danny Garcia or Brandon Rios type.
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Khan pretty much dominated his three welterweight opponents.
    Algieri, Alexander, and Collazo, pretty good fighters in their own right.
    You're going to tell me Berto deserved it more??? :lol:

    ......and now, Pacquiao is going to bypass a real money fight with Khan, so that we all can see a repeat of his snoozefests for Bradley???

    Theres a cycle to boxing. Amir Khan has been around for awhile, I as a fight fan would like to see how he does against the top tier fighters that have been around while he's been fighting.
    Amir Khan has fought in a big chunk of the Mayweather-Pacquiao-JMM era, I think he deserves to share a ring with either of those greats.

    Notice that neither of those greats have ever mentioned his name when it comes to possible opponents in the last several years.
    Well, Freddie Roach has, but he's always talking out if his ****, he's like a barking dog that doesn't bite.
     
  10. VG_Addict

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    Old, alcoholic Collazo, Algieri who lost to Pacquiao, and Alexander who lost to Bradley and Porter don't get you Pacquiao or Floyd.
     
  11. jamescomeback

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    khan schools mayweather
     
  12. VG_Addict

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    No he doesn't.
     
  13. icarus1

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    having the skill doesn't make one have the right to top fights. khan should prove himself with quality opponents and the fans will decide when he has the right to be on the spot and not him forcing himself at the top without unquestionable credibility.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Then you explain to me how Berto got his shot vs Mayweather?

    Don't tell me, lose to the fighters Mayweather has already dominated gets you a title shot with him?:lol:
     
  15. divac

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    The bottom line here is if Mayweather or Pacquiao didn't view Khan as a real threat, they would have fought him by now simply because Khan would sell in a fight with them on PPV.
    ......but because Khan is viewed as a threat, the excuse to not fight him is, "who has he fought?" "Let him prove himself against Brook, Thurman, and a few of the up and coming guys at 147lbs."

    Khan has to actually keep re-proving himself by beating fighters considered dangerous punchers, but fighters like Berto and Rios can be picked to fight Mayweather and Pacquiao and not be measured by those same standards. :lol::nut

    Bottom line here is Khan is money to any top flight fighter out there that wants to fight him, and none wants to.........
    .......and that's the bottom line!!!!!