"Both men would get knocked down."

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    We often see versus threads where we match up glass cannons. Shavers versus Cooney type fights, where each guy has tons of power, a vulnerable chin, and a leaky defense.

    It seems reasonable at first to predict that both guys would go down from punches in that kind of fight. Basically, to predict a Patterson/Ingo 3 kind of bout. And some predictions along these lines are usually made.

    But how reasonable is a prediction like this? Remember that only one of the 3 Patterson/Ingo fights had knockdowns on both sides. The other two were decisive, one-sided KOs.

    KD's are often bad news for the guy suffering them. If you've already gotten knocked down, you're vulnerable to getting finished off. You do see fighters trading KDs -- Lyle versus Shavers and Foreman are examples -- but how often should we expect it?
     
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  2. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I tend to think that with glass cannon matches, there wouldn't be trading of knockdown, there would just be the guy who landed first finishing the job.
     
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  3. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Good question! I do not know offhand.
    But it likely is overstated.
    JUST LIKE the bigger, more significant error so many make-assuming a fight between 2 top fighters, especially ATGs, would often end in an early blowout.
    When in reality the amount of times it would even be a TKO is over-rated.

    If you get top skilled guys unless there is a very strong psychological or stylistic avantage-& often you need both-nobody should expect a complete destruction.
    Sometimes even very second tier or below fighters give ATGs trouble or run them close-fuhgettibout the rarer upsets.
    Thinking one guy gets steamrolled is often fanciful & often betrays bias.
     
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