Both Usyk and Fury have been saved by ref

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  1. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In these given examples, I think Fury was saved by good officiating, and Usyk was saved by bad officiating.

    I agree many, probably most, referees would have waved Fury off; probably without a count because he fell so hard. If he had, absolutely no one would have complained. The ref gave him a count and a chance to fight on if he beat the count. I think that is a good referee.

    In Usyk's situation, the ref made a bad call, and gave a knocked out fighter 5 minutes to recover. That is bad officiating.

    I don't like the ducking clown of a champ that is Fury, and I like Usyk, but, I gotta call it like I see it.
     
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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I never said Usyk would beat Fury. I said Fury ducked Usyk and he has to be honest

    Doesn't change the fact that I think Fury would smash him to pieces.

    I'm angry with Fury for ducking and I don't support him. But after last night, I don't think usyk is worth supporting either. He was busted to the body and made a meal of it.

    Fury 100% beats him if he man's up
     
  3. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    If you think Usyk was hit with a legit body punch, then you simply don't know Queensberry rules. 40.1 of the USA Boxing National Rule Book (which is the one considered for this match), states that ALL hits 'below the belt' are “illegal”.
    Despite the confusing name, the 'belt line' for these purposes is NOT the somewhat wide area of the actual belt of the shorts - it is literally “a line located on the level of the fighter’s belly button”. This is further confirmed by The Association of Boxing Commissions Regulatory Guidelines, which state: “Below the belt refers to all the area of the body that lies below the line of the opponent's navel, including the genital area, legs, and crotch. It goes on to say: "In these sports, as in many others, punches must not be struck below the opponent's navel, as it is deemed unfair and contrary to sportsmanship.” Therefore, any hit delivered below the belly button is considered a “low blow” and is thus deemed an illegal shot. Whether the hit is within the width of the belt of the shorts (or even near the fighter’s crotch or not) is irrelevant.

    Also, body punches have a delayed response. When you get hit in your solar plexus, it takes 1-2 seconds for the pain to kick in and you take a knee or curl into a ball while unable to breathe properly. What did Usyk do? He immediately felt pain, crawled on all fours, then stretched out to lay against the ropes while breathing heavily. These physiological signs have absolutely nothing to do with a legit body punch. They had "sharp and sudden pain in the balls" written all over them.

    And no, he wasn't hit directly in the balls. But if you ever wore a cup guard, then you know how it feels when it gets hit. Dubois hit the upper part of the cup guard with an uppercut which means the upward trajectory of the shot lifted the cup guard and smashed it against Usyk's balls. Imagine the worst-ever wedgie you can - that's what Usyk experienced last night.