Bottom line: Is canelo a mw?

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  1. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's not a middleweight, he's a natural LHW who cuts insane amount of weight.
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's most likely due to his age that he can cut so much weight. As you get older, the weight stays with you and it gets harder and harder to cut. He could be the poster boy for drastic weight cutting.
     
  3. Bad Boy Bill

    Bad Boy Bill Active Member Full Member

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    Not yet. I still think he can make 154 comfortably.
     
  4. sponge

    sponge Active Member Full Member

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    He is considerably bigger the GGG. He can weigh as much as 180++
     
  5. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    He can't even make 155 comfortably
     
  6. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    I don't think you know what natural means.
     
  7. Bad Boy Bill

    Bad Boy Bill Active Member Full Member

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    Only a salty Golovkin fan would say such nonsense. Golovkin got his green belt, move on.
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I'm honestly not sure.
     
  9. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Yes he is clearly a Middleweight. He seems to have to work hard to weigh in at 155 and weighs in as heavy or heavier than alot of Middleweights come fight night.

    The only thing not Middleweight about him is his opposition which seems to be mainly fattened up Welterweights. Like a school bully.
     
  10. PistolPat

    PistolPat Active Member Full Member

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    With the rules in place him and many other boxers drain to get a size advantage fighting in a division well below their fighting weight. It is what it is.
     
  11. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Its true but most Boxers do it against opponents the same size as them fighting at the same weight and it pretty much evens itself out cuz they both do it. Canelo is doing it against Welterweights who are already smaller than him. He is gaining huge weight advantages over them.
     
  12. Bucho

    Bucho People's Champ Full Member

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    I support stricter weight cutting regulations but as it stands the only weight that matters for categorization is what they weigh on the scale.
     
  13. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Alvarez is a 160 fighter, as long as he wants to fight, he should fight at middleweight, if he wants to fight at 155, then OK, but his opponents can weight 160 because it's the 160 division................
     
  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He hydrated back up to 172lbs against Trout I believe and that was a few years ago. We haven't been privy to his walk in the ring weight in recent fights but I suspect he's walking in the mid 170lbs range.

    So it's pretty clear he's a good sized middleweight, even maybe a big middleweight.
     
  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Definitely a middleweight, but using the lowest weight he can drain down to so he doesn't have to face other real middleweights.