Bowe is a superior boxer to Lewis

Too bad you weren't around to give Eddie Futch advise because he said the exact opposite.

 

Well, judging from your take on Bowe's skills and ability, Futch was most likely a fraud anyway.

 

Apart from the apparent or alleged one-side ducking of Lennox Lewis - which I don't want to go into - the criticisms against Rid**** Bowe just don't add up at all.

For a guy who only fought 7 1/2 years (disregarding embarrassment comebacks a decade later) his 40-1 record/resume stands up well.

 

I must say, I'm inclined to agree

The things you say really make sense

not to mention Bowe is just far more the fierce warrior to the mechanical control conscious Lewis

 

Yeah, and because he fought Holyfield 31 rounds, in one of heavyweight history's most competitive trilogies. And those were the days when Holyfield was still throwing a lot of punches per round (especially around the time of their 1st fight), rather than the guy who Lewis faced who fought in spurts.

The fact that Bowe also didn't quit against Golota twice (he toughed it out until Golota quit!) didn't help his condition either. A lot of damage to the head must have occurred there.

 

Who did he beat outside of his perfect foil Holyfield?

He was forced to low blow Coetzer into submission. Tony Tubbs gave him all he could handle. He picked an absolutely embalmed Dokes to defend against. Hide was a C-level competitor in the heavy division. In the end, Gonzalez was a nobody. And a B-level fighter, a guy who never impressed me, Golota chose to give up to Bowe when he was winning both fights. I don't see a legacy setting resume.

 

1. Seeing as Holyfield battled him competitively in an all-time trilogy, and inflicted plenty of damage, a close defeat, and a first career KD, it seems odd to call him a "perfect foil".

2. Lennox Lewis turned professional around the same time as Bowe, and who did he defeat up until the end of 1996 to put him ahead of what Bowe did in that period ?
At that stage, I'd say Bowe achieved more, and was used up too soon. Of course, in Lewis's defence I will say Bowe's avoidance might have cost him.

Your criticisms don't stack up.
Herbie Hide was deserving of a top 10, or even top 5 or 6 at that particular point in time. I don't think Hide was much good, but I think he was as good as Morrison, and better than Just!n Fortune, 260 pound Lionel Butler and better or at least on par with Phil Jackson or a 1993 vintage Tucker.

Gonzalez was a legitimate opponent at the time too. No one considered him a soft touch at the time. He was big and mean with immense amateur pedigree and undefeated in professionals.

Larry Donald was a good prospect with skills.

These are the kind of "challenger" Larry Holmes made his name against, actually better than some of Holmes's challengers.

 

Well if we compare Bowe and, say, McCall, Bowe is head and shoulders above Oliver as a boxer. Not always resume shows how good fighter is.

Here are common opponents:

Lionel Butler

Bowe WTKO2
McCall WSD 10

Jesse Ferguson

Bowe WKO2
McCall WUD10 (razor-close. should've been a draw)

Bruce Seldon

Bowe KO1
McCall KO9 (was trailing on all cards).

Once again. Not always depth of resume shows how good fighter is. In case of Bowe, this comparison to McCall, and his wins over Holyfield show how good he was really.

 

Yes.

By 1996, Bowe had clearly superior resume to Lennox. 2 wins over Holyfield, lineal HW championship.

The problem is that Bowe was done, and Lewis started better part of his career after 1996 (and scored his best wins)

 

Compare their pro debut up to 1995.

Lewis best wins:

Frank Bruno -- Bowe performed a lot better against Holyfield

Tony Tucker -- At that stage Tucker was no better if not worse than Pierre Coetzer. Bowe destroyed Coetzer one sided , while Lewis struggled with Tucker.

Ruddock -- Tyson ruined him. He never beat anybody of note ever again . Equal win to Undefeated Gonzales.

MaCall -- Knocked out

Phill Jackson , Lionel Bulter and Fortune -- I'd argue undefeated Donald , undefeated Hide and Fergerson were better wins. Fergerson beat Mercer , Mercer then went on to deserve a draw against Lewis.
Bowe beat Bulter in his first ever fight as a pro.
Lewis didn't look great against Jackson either.

Beyond 1995 , Lewis went on to seal his legacy with two fights against a past prime Holyfield , who Bowe had already beat when he was at his best.

Pre 1995 , Bowe has a clear edge in ability and resume.

 

Revisionism at its best. Bowe fouled Golota to bits and when he got it back with interest quit like a typical ghetto bully boy. His best " performance " was in the kidnapping of his wife, and he even f**ked that up.

 

Throw yourself off a bridge you maggot.

 

If I could guarantee I'd land on your f***ing worthless head I would do so willingly. Your a bit of a fan of women beaters and r*pists aren't you?

 

When you say "Revisionism at its best" you're referring to your next sentence. Although "Revisionism at its worst" would be a fine title too. :good

 

Are you seriously denying that Bowe initiated the fouling but then cried like a stuck pig when Golota repaid him with interest?