Bowe is better than Lewis ?

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    By what logic, explanation, point of view (without triangle theory) could Bowe be better than Lewis?
    If you're a Bowe fan - I understand that.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    If you're a Bowe fan, you're still constrained by reality. It's like how a Juan Urango fan can't just start questioning if Juan Urango is better than Miguel Cotto. Like, nope, sorry, that's just a quick no that merits no elaboration. :sisi1
     
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  3. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    I thought Bowe had it all over Lewis back in '92/'93. Skill-wise, I thought he was the more complete fighter, however mental-wise, I'm not so sure. It was on Bowe to make that fight happen when the fight was hot, and he made another choice. I think Bowe was intimidated of Lewis.
    Riddick didn't last as long, so I guess Lennox has to be put in front of him. I say that sheepishly because Lewis wasn't without his stink bombs either. We'll never know for sure who would have won had they fought.
     
  4. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not in 92-93, Bowe would have easily beat him them.
    I think only after 94-95 Lewis became better and Bowe declined.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis would've stopped Bowe in the early 90s as well as prime for prime. You don't pressure a gung-ho Lewis with a defence like that. You get hit with right hands and uppercuts until you fall over; which is what would happen to Bowe. Lewis' superior speed and power would make the difference in a fire fight, and prime for prime, his intelligence would avoid one all together.

    He was a better fighter than Bowe ever was. More pronounced weaknesses, but better nonetheless.
     
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  6. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox had a better resume and a more full career. Look at the Golota fight. Lennox dispatched him easily and Bowe really struggled.
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Bowe's career was about protecting a guy with bad defense from big heavyweights who could crack.
     
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  8. bboyrei

    bboyrei Member Full Member

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    Eddie Futch thought 92 Bowe couldn't beat Lewis, also Rock Newman pulled Bowe out of the fight since he wanted to drag Bowe's championship run longer. Difficult to say whether or not Bowe actually wanted it himself based on interviews.
     
  9. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    Things change quickly in boxing. Especially in fighters as erratic and unpredictable as Bowe or Lewis. Bowe ate himself out of boxing with laziness and peaked only for a short time as a result. Lennox improved later on but was still unpredictable and was KO'ed by what most on here would say were two club fighters. He also had shaky fights, like against Mercer, (some say he should have lost that). He was far from invincible himself. You can't use Golota and Holyfield as a measuring stick because they happened at different times for each fighter.
     
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  10. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Surely Bowe is the much better fighter
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe also had shaky fights against Tubbs and Biggs, no fighter is invincible but surely Lewis is the greater fighter. Had Bowe fought several top opponents like Lewis things could've been far different for his career because like Lewis he was known to have bad nights. Perhaps he would be greater or perhaps he'd have more than 1 loss or even more losses than Lewis.

    Who knows, maybe someone like Ruddock could've chinned Bowe
     
  12. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Very few here would say McCall or Rahman were only "club fighters". Lewis deserves criticism for losing-even though the McCall fight was called off too soon-but they were far better than that. From Wilipedia:

    A club fighter (or clubfighter) is a professional [url]boxer[/url] who usually fights locally and has a mediocre record. Club fighters generally are not nationally recognized and have not won any fights that show the ability to win a championship. The term is often used as a [url]pejorative[/url] for over-hyped fighters or for older boxers when they begin to decline. For example, [url]Floyd Mayweather Jr.[/url] called [url]Arturo Gatti[/url] "a blown-up club fighter", even though Gatti was the [url]WBC[/url] [url]super lightweight[/url] champion at the time.

    A club fighter is less respected than a contender, who defeats [url]gatekeepers[/url], [url]journeymen[/url] and club fighters in order to establish himself as a challenger for a world title. A journeyman is slightly more respected than a club fighter—often by way of having a superficially good record.

    These guys were neither only local fighters, had good records, fought some of the best around, & would have easily dispatched actual club fighters. They were legitimate contenders.
    They are not at all comparable to club fighters.
     
  13. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis had indeed more power, but his speed seemed about the same as Bowe's.
    And if they had fought in the early 90s, Bowe would have won, he peaked way sooner and was a more polished boxer at that time.
    Early 90s, Lewis never wins a trade of contest.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Bowe was too easy to hit.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    In what way?