Bowe v Golota.....WTF?!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lionel Rose, Apr 19, 2009.


  1. Lionel Rose

    Lionel Rose Guest

    Having watched these two behemoths going at it hell-for-leather again, was it ever established exactly WHY Golota decided to 'go south' on so many occasions?!
    He was winning clearly on each occasion - was he just a complete half wit or was there some rational to his inexplicable behaviour?!:patsch:yikes
     
  2. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Getting tired.. Loosing faith.. My guess is he tried not to show how exhausted he really was and decided to loose via DQ rather than by TKO cause it looks better in public's eyes. In both fights.
     
  3. Lionel Rose

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    Surely Bowe was the more knackered of the two - or maybe Golota really was just running on empty.
    I dunno.....what a jackass!:tired
     
  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Bowe was ready to be taken in both fights...... Golota was just a ******.
     
  5. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nah , he was just angry and pissed ,expecially in the 2nd fight, he wanted to hurt bowe in any possible way,

    imo it was his revenge for the 1st bout "afterparty"
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    he was pissed off and he couldn't keep his cool
     
  7. Lionel Rose

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    Wow - and WHAT an afterparty!:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch
     
  8. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golota's a f*cking head case.
     
  9. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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  10. sweetscientist

    sweetscientist Yori Boy Die Hard Full Member

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    i think the answer was very smartly and aptly articulated in hbo's 'legendary nights' program about the first fight and its bizarre second act replay. i am not quoting the program exactly, but kind of paraphrasing because i am very sure i have been punched in the head far too many times to have anything close to automatic recall of a program i haven't seen in about a year...jim lampley, who narrates the series, reminds us that golota, despite his clean-cut, great white hope appearance and his tendency to seem kind of shyly and simply nice, was an hardened, violent criminal in poland and the fear of going away for a long stretch in prison over some night club beatdown business, he moved to the united states to avoid or delay prosecution. next thing you know he fell back into boxing and white america was falling in love with him as a counterpoint to guys like riddick bowe who were very much the products and heroes of urban landscapes that made suburban people nervous and deposed. golota's popularity was a sad and awful indication of the rotten, longering racism that filled the space between america's ethnic, racial, political and economic gaps. sadly, it was also downgraded to an afterthought that golota could actually fight and was a really strong guy with excellent technical skills.

    but, as lampley points out, despite all the attention and talent, golota had a real darkness in him that he simply could not control in moments of extremity (good or bad extremes). accordingly, he was prone to freak outs in the ring when he was in trouble AND when he was on the verge of doing something extraordinary. before the second fight, golota was warned by referee eddie cotton and by the comission overseer that any such shenanigans as went down in the first fight would not be tolerated...golota defiantly basically just snarled at them, i'll do whatever i have to to beat him down.

    the rest is history. a waste of the talent...sadly ironic that riddick bowe, another hugely misspent fighter who could have been really something special was the other half of this absurd and awful story.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Bowe wasted his career as well.

    Nobody really cares whether he would have lost to Lewis or not (he would have IMO) but at least he could have said he stepped up to the plate.

    As it was, he effectively vacated the undisputed title and went after the meaningless WBO trinket :patsch
     
  12. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The fact is that Golota is the best fighter ever who was not an official champion

    its just sad..


    btw the point that he was a criminal or something in poland is not so obvious he ddidnt really run from the justice thats just not the case he's really nice often and has a greate sense of humour , he just couldnt handle the pressure
     
  13. djm

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    While I'd never argue the benefits there for the taking by a "great white hope" HW, I think you're overplaying it in this case. Golota had no significant wins going into the Bowe fight and was considered a potentially easy touch with a padded record by Bowe's camp (as described in Legendary Nights). In other words, he had not been embraced as a GWH as nobody beyond the Poles were that aware of him.

    Certainly Holmes/Cooney was "sad and awful" from a race perspective, but not Golota's situation. By the time he'd proved himself good enough to take seriously, he'd already blown any "suburban goodwill" he might have had.

    To the original question... yep, just flat out inexplicable behaviour by one of the sport's more unstable entities.
     
  14. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the correct answer to this is Golota's own explanation. He was trying to retaliate for fouls from Bowe's side, mainly punches behind the head. Notice on one occasion in their second fight, Bowe hits Golota behind the head and Golota complains to Eddie Cotton about this but he doesnt interfere, next thing Golota does is punch Bowe in the nuts.
     
  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Psychological issues. Bowe was being destroyed. I just don't see him doing it cause he was getting tired or discouraged for any particular reason. He had Bowe's number.