bowe vs patterson....

Lewis had been offered that price for the Tucker fight before he had the WBC and offers were made for both fights at around the same time. Its in one of the 93 boxing news issues i will try and hunt it out to show you.

I think Don King offered this because he knew that Lewis would take the offer for the highest amount of money and that this would mess up the Bowe offer. Don King knew everything that went on every where and it wouldn't surprise me if he anticipated that Lewis would be awarded the belt.

 

Don King then ruined the signed '94 Bowe-Lewis Superfight too, when his fighter Oliver McCall stopped Lewis just 2 months before it was signed for! Damn you King, damn you to hell! :fire:fire:fire

P.S: Please find that Boxing News issue, i'm interested to find out if King offered that massive Tucker-fight payday before, or after Maloney rejected Newman's offer.

 

Tucker fight contracts were often strange, from 1987 right after the Douglas fight there was 120% of Tuckers management contract sold. I think it was after the Tyson fight when they asked what he will do next in an interview he said something like "i dont know, i think i have about 14 managers so its up to them.

 

Thanks for the info. :good

No wonder Tucker had a 2 year 4 month layoff after losing his IBF title to Tyson, what with all his awkward management problems!

 

'All told, I think I have 14 managers, can't remember most of their names.'

It lasted some time too, that quote was from 1993.

 

He had those problems in 83 and 84 when he was an undercard fighter and not even rated as anything more than a prospect. My understanding is that he sold more than 100% of himself. Way more than 100%. Not many guys are capable of digging themselves out of a hole like that and amounting to much. Somehow, Tucker did and it is incredible he did. That's also a reason why you have to look at whatever management a fighter has and how it plays such a crucial role in a career.

 

Agree.

If Floyd brings his confidence to the ring, the prime version of him would beat almost anybody, Liston and Bowe included. Floyd was scared against Liston, but he did ok for a small part of the first round slipping his big shots.

 

That's laughable

 

It is no whitewash. Bowe was a good, big fighter but he was always easy to hit and sloppy against faster fighters. I think Riddick was the kind of fighter who would never keep the momentum or focus going. At the top level he wasn’t ever going to as reliable as some other champions.

Patterson did not have the best whiskers but he was a special fighter at a higher level. Patterson in the 1990s could possibly match Holyfeilds achievements.

Patterson failed badly against Liston because he was psyched out but stood up to some other monsters like chuvalo and bonavena. Patterson avenged the Ingo loss with two KO wins.

People forget Bowe was one punch away from an absolute KO against Holyfeild until evander stopped hitting him in the weirdest fight ever. Riddick was let off the hook like nothing you could imagine that time so it is not like Bowe could not get knocked out. Floyd had a better left hook than Holyfeild ever had.

Yes Bowe could bully Patterson, he had a big weight advantage, was game and liked to mix it up I just don’t think he was ever a sure thing because he could lose focus even during a good fight. Bowe made mistakes and was dominant enough within his own era to be afforded the kind of chance against a great fighter some might think he has. He was not sonny liston.

I would say patterson deserves the respect holyfeild gets against Bowe. Its 50-50.

 

Hear hear

 

Bowe would wreck him

 

Floyd Patterson was an all time great fighter, and may well rate higher on many people's list, legacy wise. But head to head, this is a mismatch. There is nothing that Patterson has, neither physically nor strategically that jumps out of the book at me, as being an advantage over Riddick Bowe.

 

It's hardly worthy of discussion. Floyd was a great fighter but way, way too small to have any hope against Bowe. Riddick would rout him.

 

obviously i cannot argue too strongly, it is a fantasy fight after all but I feel pattersons class is worthy of an even chance against a guy who fell short of the ATG grade and also lost to the best fighter he beat, who happened to be a lot smaller also.

Pattersons fight against Huricane jackson showed he could handle a very physical 6'3'' heavyweight who liked to fight inside at a high pace. Bowe was a tad taller, hit a lot harder than jackson but he didnt punch any faster, or as often.

Im not saying floyd wins but he is worthy of being taken seriously in this matchup.

 

Exactly.

What evidence suggests Bowe would be able to handle the faster hands and footwork of a prime Floyd Patterson? I won't argue against the obvious. Bowe's got the size, weight and reach advantage no doubt, but too many people are writing Floyd off as if he'll get bombed out like his fights with Liston. A confident Patterson could out-box Bowe on the inside and out. A scared Floyd probably doesn't make it out of the second round against Bowe.