Bowe vs Wlad prime4prime

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  1. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I think Bowe crushes him, he's got everything on his side, even his jab is better than Wlad's.

    His long overhand right hand is ideal for countering Wlad's pawing jaw, he would outjab Wlad and inside it's not even close when Bowe starts to land his short combos. Bowe showed he knows how to pressure the bigger man, gonzales fight, and go to the body.

    Bowe had a great chin and heart so he could afford himself even be sloppy at times and just go for the kill.

    Hell I think even Bowe from Golota fights would break down Wlad and stop him.

    I can't see a single reason for Wlad going to distance with Bowe, let alone win.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bowe from the Golota fights would get KO'ed quickly, he was too fat in the first fight and shot in the 2nd.

    I'd disgree about who has the better jab, Wlad's is better as he controls range with it better, that pawing jab as you call it is designed to minimise risk and control range unlike Bowe's which was basically there to set up other shots, he couldn't control range with his jab very well. And even if Bowe's is better, Wlad showed he could deal with a slow footed fighter with a better jab in Pulev. No way Bowe can do what Fury did, he's nowhere near as mobile and wouldn't fight that way anyway.

    Bowe dominates on the inside of course but question is can he actually one get into range and if he does what does he do about Wlad's clinching which would take away his biggest advantage?

    With a fair ref who doesn't allow Wlad to clinch his way to a decision, I think Wlad struggles to deal with a big man like Bowe who would just keep coming. Wlad isn't the best mover himself, he moves fine in short bursts but his lateral movement is poor, he can't really fight that well if he's constantly forced to move. Peak Bowe who beat Evander was just too good, too busy and would wear down Wlad and stop him.

    Wlad has a punchers chance though, he hits that hard and Bowe's defence is poor enough for him to get hit a lot and Wlad would always be dangerous but Bowe had a ton of heart, would take a lot to KO Bowe and I don't think Wlad could put the kind of constant pressure to likely force a KO even if he has him hurt.
     
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  3. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad won't be able to lean all over the best Bowe so Riddicks inside work should dominate. Inside he hurts Wlad and a hurt Wlad is a losing Wlad. Bowe ko seven.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I like Bowe here he as the tools and much bigger b*lls!
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Bowers prime was short but he was a terrific fighter for a few years .. possibly could have beaten Lewis .. I like Wlad and he had terrific focus and determination but he was not good enough to beat a prime Bowe.
     
  6. ticar

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    bowe is as big as wlad and is actually one of the best inside fighters, bowe would hit him on the inside, wlad wouldn't know what to do, he would look to the ref like a little ***** saying like "ohh help me he is mean" :D
    bowe is so much better fighter than wlad... he doesn't even need to train that much for this fight, he is 1000 times tougher than wlad and a more complete boxer.
     
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  7. ticar

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    sums it up really good ;)
     
  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Bowe at his best is just too offensively gifted. Fast, powerful jab to score points and disrupt things if Wlad tries to keep his distance and he kills Wlad on the inside and at mid-range.
     
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  9. Roger Federer

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    Bowe beats Wlad 10/10. Bowe would be too big and strong for Wlad to tie down in clinches and he doesn't have the lateral movement to avoid the rough inside exchanges. Even the shot, weight drained version of Bowe that took 300 power punches and nonstop nutshots from Golota while still charging forward would win. The sheer relentlessness and determination would have Wlad mentally fold like he did against Brewster.
     
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  10. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    before dinovelet slaughters waldo.

    yeh id fancy bowe in his prime of 2-3years then after wladmir from 2006 onwards to make bowe look like a clueless bum, who wasnt meant to be in the ring with Dr Steel Hammer. i feel riddick is overated.
     
  11. ticar

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    it would like a fight between a tough as nails street fighter and a school nerd, wlad would **** his pants when bowe starts to put pressure on him and when he starts to batter him on the inside he would look to the ref or his corner begging for help
     
  12. Roger Federer

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    How many quality HWs has Wlad ever kept consistently on the end of his jab? He has to clinch so much in part because he lacks the footwork to control the range. If fighters like Brewster and Peter could get past his jab then Bowe would too. Wlad's clinching is most effective when he's fighting shorter opponents where has the leverage to wrap his arm around the back of their neck/head and push all of his weight down. Against tall skilled opponents his clinching wasn't nearly as effective (e.g. Sanders, Williamson, Thompson, Fury etc) and he's never fought anybody in his life with good inside fighting skills to the level of a Bowe who could take advantage of minute openings to land big power shots.
     
  13. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem with this matchup is Bowe's prime consisted of one fight, the first Holyfield fight.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    All excellent points. I do think Wlad has a good jab but he doesn't have the footwork to go with it as you say. And you are right it will take more than Wlad's jab to keep a fighter like Bowe at a distance.

    I will add that Wlad didn't clinch much in the Thompson fight because the ref stopped him. It's one of the few Wlad fights where he actually was forced to box and he didn't do too badly, but it was against an opponent who one didn't have the power to hurt him and 2 didn't throw anywhere near enough to test Wlad's stamina. Bowe in such a fight would put way more pressure on Wlad and had more than enough power to KO Wlad.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Peak Bowe would pump Wlad.