Bowe would have crushed Lews in the early 90's

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  1. Mook

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    very good point on the beard. we just don't know for sure though - though he won, that third Holy fight ruined Bowe, imo.
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    Yeah, things can change over 4 years and under different styles of fighting.

    I usually don't like to make excuses for someone's mindset, but I really don't think Bowe was all mentally there for the Olympics due to his family problems.

    What I do wonder though is if Bowe was mentally affected by the loss to Lewis and ducking him, or if Newman just wanted easy HBO dollars. Maybe both, but I think more so of the latter.

    I've learned not to underestimate the power of those HBO dollars.
     
  3. Spitfire7

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    Would've, could've, should've, etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseam...(*sigh*)
     
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    I think it was all the tough fights for Bowe: the Holyfield trilogy, Coetzer, and his battles with food and the scales.

    Not everyone can be like Duran or Toney (who were both much better defensively) and balloon up and down in weight and still have longevity.
     
  5. Mook

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    It's interesting. this fight - the early to mid 90s versions comes up quite often. A few years ago, I had LL in a close fight. Now I just don't see what Bowe had that would trouble Lewis - even that flawed version. It's probably not helped by how their reputations have changed, but the truth is, time does help you put these guys into perspective. Lewis would have stopped Bowe, I'm sure of that now.
     
  6. Mook

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    ah, come on, it's fun.
     
  7. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Couldnt disagree more. Lewis's balance, and footwork were horrible until Steward got him. He also taught Lewis how to avoid infighting by tieing up and shutting his opponent down on the inside. He also put him in fights to test his will, like in the Mercer fight. He was forced to dig down and fight out a win when he wasnt having his way. Steward made a monumental difference in his career, and I think he would be the first to admit it.
     
  8. lefthook31

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    Well we saw how he handled the Gonzalez situation, and Gonzalez milked that deal all the way until fight time.
     
  9. Danny

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    No he wouldn't have. The closest a pro fight between the two came to actually happening, was back in early 1993. Bowe was coming off the title winning performance against Holyfield in Nov. 1992, and his first round KO of Dokes.

    At that point, 1993, Bowe was much the superior fighter. Lewis imprved a great deal when Manny Steward became his trainer. Before Manny, Lewis was very gun-shy, & would hardly ever try to impse himself on opponents. Manny developed a some-what aggresive streak into Lewis.

    At his best, Bowe was a better in-fighter, than Lewis ever was. Maybe Lewis was stronger, but Bowe had the tools to beat him. At that stage of their careers, I would pick Bowe to win.

    Later on, maybe it would have been a different outcome, but not back then.
     
  10. Mook

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    :lol: :patsch :nut :rofl :nono Watch the Ruddock and Mason fights. He was a more reckless, aggressive fighter back then, absolutely no doubt about it. Sure as hell not gunshy.
     
  11. Doppleganger

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    Fair enough, but how about the rest of my post?
     
  12. blistering

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    Bowe wouldn't have handled Lewis' power or size and Bowe had a terrible defense.

    Lewis would have knocked Bowe out in 5 imo.

    The only thing Bowe proved in his career was that he could beat Holyfield, a much smaller fighter. Bowe didn't even do that very cleverly, as he repeatedly allowed Holy to get inside and repeatedly brawled with Holy.
     
  13. Thread Stealer

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    Lewis always had that mean streak in him. He showed plenty of aggression in going for the finish against guys like Bruno, Ruddock, Biggs, etc...Sometimes he got reckless and winged too many shots, leaving himself open down the middle.

    "Lennox, not the most graceful finisher in the world"- Lampley during Lewis-Jackson.

    Also, Lewis was lucky early in his career not to get DQ'd against Acey.
     
  14. GazOC

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    :lol: Damn these professional boxers!!:D
     
  15. Mook

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    quite agree, but please tell me more about the Acey fight, I don't know the story there.