Bowe would have crushed Lews in the early 90's

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Don't bother, these nuthuggers say EVERYBODY "avoided" Lewis. :patsch It's how they justify overrating the guy when he faced NONE of the greatest fighters of his era when they were at their best, and didn't face Bowe at ALL.

    These fights didn't get made when they "should" have for the same reasons fights usually don't get made in boxing - financial reasons, external factors, and boxing politics. :yep

    The fanboys just try to always blame it on the other guys to justify the glaring omissions in their man's record. They HAVE to! :nod
     
  2. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How to wreck your ESB reputation in just 4 posts. Not even a rabid anti-Lewis guy like Zakman would come up with such prime bull****.

    Go away and get some boxing education.
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Lewis knocked Bowe out in the amateurs. Rock Newman would not give Lewis a shot at Bowe. Lewis would have knocked Bowe out again, but Bowe became a good boxer after Eddie Futch trained him.
     
  4. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    I think the major question here is who had the better career and will go down as the greater heavyweight champion, and who earnt more money?

    Lewis.

    Who is still currently fighting in a next month against some bum because his broke ass could not save any money?

    Bowe.

    Onto the lesser questions...

    Who was the better fighter in 1993?

    Bowe

    Bowe would have beaten lewis in 1993, but that was because that was during Bowe's prime and when Lewis had not began to reach his. Lewis' prime began around 97. This is a full 4 years later by which time Bowe had "retired".

    It does not at all effect Lewis' legacy that Bowe in 1993 would have beaten him, as Lewis's prime is 1997-2000.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    When two very large and powerful men meet in the ring, anything can happen. My best guess is Lewis wins. I just can’t get over how easily Lewis landed his right hand on Bowe, and how much it hurt Bowe.

    Having said that, Bowe developed much quicker than Lewis did. The Bowe who won the title vs Holyfield in the first fight would have beaten Lewis in the same date I think.

    Overall, I like Lewis to win. A pity we never saw the match.
     
  6. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    I think pretty much everyone who watched those 2 fights would say that Golota would have won had he not been DQ'd. It's better to say that Golota lost those fights rather then Bowe winning, because in both fights Golota was clearly having the upper hand.
     
  7. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Excellent post. You cannot argue this on the grounds of actual events - Ll stepped up, remained active and became a better over a longer period of time. Would Bowe have defeated LL? I dont think so for one reason only. Discipline. Whatever would have to be done LL did and proved this time and time again. As for Bowe i cannot see him achieving the hard fight prep and forgetting the past once his strength doen't work.
     
  8. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Yep - the quitting the marines, other slips in preps and past failure directly against the man seals it for me. There is no way LL would have been unprepared - complacency did not set until till much later and was recognised and corrected. The condition's of the Bruno fight largely goes unrecognised when trying to use this bout as an example - I cannot imagine why the bout was planned in this way and went ahead in these conditions.
     
  9. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I dont believe that would have been the case int he second fight.
     
  10. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He may have been prepared, but it wouldnt have been enough for the well schooled Bowe at that time. Correa would tell him to go out there and knock him out. He never was a good trainer for Lewis, and never had him utilizing his talents, like Manny Steward did.
     
  11. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch no he wouldnt have !
     
  12. Boinko

    Boinko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Heh, Zakman yet again getting testy in a Lewis thread when someone dares to point out the inadequacies in his own boy's (Holyfield's) record.

    But, there is no doubt he has to champion the Bowe cause. Otherwise it won't look so good on his boy since that overrated chump Riddick beat Evander two out of three times.
     
  13. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfields resume is basically beating up a past his best Tyson and losing twice to Bowe, and erm that's it basically, unless you cound fat, disinterested Douglas and old Foreman and Holmes. No rational man could rate Holyfield above Lewis. Of course if an irrational man was to try to do just that then claiming Bowe to be better than he actually was would have to be part of the agenda too :yep
     
  14. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe probably had the ability to beat Lewis yet I think he lacked the confidence to fight him and win. I think Lewis just wins this because Bowe couldn't generate a winner's mentality. If Bowe simply moved to his right I think Lewis could not have cut him off and he would have stayed a step and a half in front of Lewis but I really see Bowe freezing in his tracks and being stopped.
     
  15. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's funny. Holyfield was perceived as the "old man" who was going to be destroyed in less than a round before their first fight.