Boxer defeats Collegiate wrestler in mma.

well obvisouly but i wud like to see the records i mean for all we no its agreat boxer vs a **** wrestler who wrestled at some comunity college

 

there has never been any doubt, granted they have a GSP or Chuck TD defense...not many have those and if they did, theyd win 80% of their fights

 

btw this guy is nota pure boxer look at his TD defense and he almost locked on a triangle nd is clearly a pretty good grappler

 

no siht obviously they can. and that announer cud be wrong. and randy couture wasnt evben that great of a collegiate wrestler he was good but not that great

 

LOL! This fight is great! It proves MMA fighters can never be good boxers.

Look at Williams stance? Way way too square. And he only throws one or two punches at a time? What he can't throw combinations? And his hands, he is holding them too low! What a terrible guy, he could never make it as a boxer...

...unless using boxing skills in MMA is different than regular boxing...?

 

Williams has been working with the best wrestling gym in mma for the better part of a decade, has a bit of a background in wrestling before that, and still got put on his back easily.

Boxing transfers well but not nearly as well as wrestling.

What do you think would have happened to Williams if he hadn't spent all those years with couture? What would his boxing have mattered once he got put on his back?

It took all that work, and yet when it game down to it his boxing still got him put on his back against a newcomer.

Boxing is great, that has been proven by guys like pulver, varner, rampage, and so many others; but without the long road of hard work to develop defence for takedowns, submissions and escapes for those takedowns that you just can't stop, and defence for all the other aspects of striking, the boxer will be just another Houston Alexander getting ground to dust by Thiago Silva.

Even Sakara who has finally developed some of the other parts of his game with a great team is still nowhere near a top 20 spot.

Boxing great, but if it's all you have you will fail miserably even if you get a win or two first.

Add some complimentary skills like takedown defence and you can start coin pretty well, but it takes years of dedicated work to get those skills were they need to be and even then it often isn't enough

 

obviously rigged!

 

You are such an idiot, you think the mma forum hates boxing, we don't, we hate idiots like you who think our sport is so easy that a boxer could just walk in and be champion, we hate idiots like you who think that saying an mma fighter would win an mma fight is hating on boxing.

We all love boxing, that is why we came here, but we hate idiots like you who don't respect mma like everybody here respects boxing.

Basically we hate you because you are an idiot who trolls with the same tired old debates that always come down to rational people thinking each fighter wins in his own sport while idiots like you can't accept that reality.

Basically we hate stupid people who not only don't know mma, but who don't know boxing or anything else for that matter

 

Fixed. :good

 

C'mon now..."A great boxer." Any decent boxer with some experience...In the first round where he ducked his head and tryed to grab would have landed a jab, uppercut, hook, and the guy would have got KTFO!
There's no secret to a combo like that. Jab when there coming in, he's got his head down so uppercut the **** outta him, and by some chance he blocked the uppercut, he isn't blocking the hook (your gonna hit him with one punch or the other).
As most videos put up by people on the MMA forum..It wasn't much of anything. It did prove a boxer could go in to the MMA, and win a match.
I'm thinking one day we'll all get our chance to see highly skilled boxers (I'm sure they'll get some MMA experience) going in to the UFC to fight competively. Just wait for the UFC to get a little bigger, and pay there fighters more $.
I'm sure even if we do see a boxer elite beat a good UFC guy...Everybody would say he cheated by training MMA before he came in. There's no boxer elite that's dumb enough to go straight to the UFC without learning some basics. All he'd really need to learn is how to grapple. World class hands, and the ability to grapple=I'd say wins 90% of fights. Hardly anyone knees, or kicks...Cept WHC Brock Lesnar

 

So basically, this boxer was training wrestling and ju jitzu for the better part of a decade?

 

If it's Charles Jones (Purdue) he won an NCAA title in 1992 @ 167
at the age of 28 which makes him about 45 years old now....

 

What you talking about fool? Williams has been boxing for years. That guy was a Goldens Gloves champ and a serious talent in his younger days. He also packs some serious power for a guy who was basically a modern day cruiser. I think his last boxing match was against Samuel Peter when he got KO`ed cold with a hellacious left hook.