Boxer defeats Collegiate wrestler in mma.

Williams used to do Judo. He and Lennox Lewis sparred once and he threw Lennox with a hip toss after it got a bit heated during the sparring session.

 

HAHAHAHAH!

This is so funny! I used the video to prove that boxing effectively in MMA is very different, because long punch combinations aren't as useful, and this guy says Williams isn't a "great boxer" because he won his MMA fight without using a jab, uppercut, hook combination!

Dude was 42-5-1 as a pro boxer which definitely makes him something. Using boxing in MMA is DIFFERENT is the point that should be taken from the video.

 

Jeremy Williams has very solid boxing credentials. I first saw him when TBS showed amateur boxing shows in the early 90's. Williams and De la Hoya were regulars on those programs. They were part of the US's international team.

Williams fought at 178lbs. as an amateur. Williams decided to go for the glamor division, and elected to fight heavyweight as a pro. Williams was arguably one of the top 20 or 25 heavyweights in the world at one time.

Williams looked comfortable on the ground, through some knees, and even tried an apparently illegal elbow. He has definitely been learning his new craft.

 

Jeremy Williams looks forgettable as an MMA fighter. Hasn't he been training for years, shouldn't he be fighting washed up journeymen and at least try to make a name for himself?

 

He is saying he isn't just a boxer, and he is right; Williams has been training for years with Couture and still cant stop a takedown.

 

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I dont see why this is so suprising. Williams was a professional boxer. His trade WAS boxing. Parttime Judo doesnt count for anything.

 

Jeremy Williams has done Judo for many years.

He got thrown out of LL's training camp when he was sparring for Holyfield, because he tossed Lewis to the canvas like a rag doll with a Judo throw. :deal

Jeremy Williams is not a pure boxer.

 

If he still can't stop a takedown after years of training he should've already quit.

 

Don't you even know who he is?

He hip tossed Lennox Lewis during a sparring session YEARS AGO when MMA was nothing like it is now.

It was for one of Lewis's fights with Holyfield.

There is a documentary about the build up to the fight and you can see Williams toss Lewis to the canvas, then in the end he get's chucked out of the camp because he keeps behaving like a dick.

Jeremy Williams is not a pure boxer.

He was tossing the best heavyweight boxer on earth to the canavs when the UFC was almost dead.

He also helpd Rampage Jackson prepare for his rematch with Chuck.

Chuck had no chance with Williams being one of Rampages main sparring partners.

The best pure boxer turned MMA figthter is by far Marcus Davis, who fight's for the UFC.
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It's relevant to bring up because a guy with years of mma training with even more takedown specific training still cannot stop the shot of a 40 year old ex wrestler with no fights to his name.

If Williams with all that work still got taken down and kept down by such a bad opponent, all this childish and moronic talk of a boxer being able to walk into mma with a few months or even years and beat the best of the sport, or even the gatekeepers of the sport, is shown for the absolute bull**** that it is.

It's like showing Jens Pulver or Chris Lytle knocking out a boxer, which they both have done several times, and claiming that mma is "equal" for "blending" into boxing as pure boxing. Pulver and Lytle were doing it against much better competition too; hell, Pulver was on ESPN.

It is just flat out stupid to think that a boxer is starting off with as good of a chance in mma as a high level wrestler; all the evidence as well as common sense show that wrestlers make better mma fighters and get there faster.

 

I'm on the boxers side bro...I can't hardly believe he used to be a great boxer though by watching that. Boxers...Throw punches. This guy he had 3 rounds, and never let his hands go at all.

 

atsch
Yes, and what does that tell you? Perhaps that throwing punches in an mma match and punches in a boxing match are somehow different? It seems like I've read that somewhere before....