Boxer who beat the most undefeated opponents?

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    hes never really been elite. The guys he brought in were fakes with padded records - the guys who were defeated were better.
     
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  2. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Active Member Full Member

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    Larry Holmes popped 12

    Shoutout to Frank Buglioni who's cleaning out the British LHW scene, last 3 have been undefeated and the next defence is also undefeated, Anthony Yarde to join the list?
     
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  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What do you consider as 'elite'?
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    a group, a small group, who can, by and large, beat everyone else except perhaps other members of that group.

    elite >world

    with that in mind, perhaps povetkin qualifies, that would be Wlads sole elite win.
     
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  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So do you agree that an 'elite' opponent by definition means 'THE BEST POSSIBLE OPPONENT' at a given time?
     
  6. HerolGee

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    no, it means what i said, not what you said.
     
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  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry, I misunderstood your definition because I didn't find it specific enough.

    Anyway, if you disagree with my definition of an 'elite' boxer as someone who is THE BEST POSSIBLE OPPONENT at a given time. Then we will have to agree to disagree. But if you do agree, then we agree with each other and are on even terms.

    Thank you!
     
  8. HerolGee

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    yeh i cant see sanders as an elite, not when he wasnt elite when prime.

    but i agree that if you define world >> elite then my words make no sense

    cheers.
     
  9. greenhornet

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    his definition of elite is greatly going to differ for opponents of guys he likes.
     
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  10. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I'm sticking with the old saying " if your undefeated you haven't consistently fought the best ". Cherry picking and strategically picking your opponents if you retire with the 0
     
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  11. OvidsExile

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    Agreed, but that Povetkin win had so much clinching that it was tainted. If it had played out fair it might have looked a lot more like Klitschko vs Joshua. We as fans were robbed of a very good fight that night.
     
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  12. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Selby beats Warrington that will be 8 cherrys popped in only 28 fights
     
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  13. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The was a guy who used to be on here who tabulated the combined records of the opponents of different fighters.

    Pretty cool stat
     
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  14. Limerickbox

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    Cameron Kreal fought 13 undefeated fighters in his first 23 fights
     
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  15. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Big 'O'rtiz is taking away a notable cherry next week.