Boxers Backgrounds - middleclass?

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  1. MIK1000

    MIK1000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah I suppose it depends on how you define middleclass.

    I suppose my opinion isn't too valid because I'm only 17 but I consider myself middleclass (not that I'm proud of it or anything) although I interests which would traditionally be associated with working classes. My mum comes from a family of 11 and grew up in a pretty deprived area but became a dentist. My dad on the other hand is probably lower middleclass, he went to a grammar school (not a private/public school). They moved to a really middleclass area in the west end of Glasgow when they married and brought me and my brothers up. We got sent to the local school which wasn't private but the highest scoring state school in Scotland and is independent from the council.
    Most of my cousins and extended family live in poorer areas. I'm going to Uni next year and so did both my brothers.

    I'd consider myself middleclass because of my upbringing which I think overshadows the heritage from my mums side of the family but I'd say I have interests which are much more suited to working classes like football and boxing or general interest in people.

    Sorry about the lifestory but i thought it was interesting in showing different definitions of classes.

    btw, In scotland Rugby is a strictly posh, private school game which isn't even touched on by state schools in most cases. My school was pretty mixed, it had a good rugby team for a state school and was probably better than most private schools at football and some state schools.
    Generally in scotland State schools are great at football and private schools are shite.
     
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  2. Thread Stealer

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    Muhammad Ali was middle-class, or lower-middle class.

    He still had a tough upbringing though as his father was an abusive drunk.

    The police would come to his house numerous times when his father would be drunk and beligerent. One time he cut Muhammad's leg.
     
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  3. Thread Stealer

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    I think Shane Mosley grew up middle-class as well.
     
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  4. MIK1000

    MIK1000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah but he was black middleclass which at the time was no where near white middleclass so infact he grew up in poverty.
     
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  5. Jaaames

    Jaaames Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know MAB came from a middleclass home.. its been documented on HBO... I'm gonna guess Felix Sturm
     
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  6. Jaaames

    Jaaames Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It could be for them, but at the same time in other parts of the world, boxing is treated as a SPORT... To them its like fencing with their fist....
     
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  7. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Acelino Freitas for sure, he was still sleeping on the floor one week before becoming world champion :lol:
     
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  8. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly Black Middle class in post war Loisville is not what most of us would think of as middleclass , but in comparison to say Joe Frazier he definetley was.


    Also MIK in your other post you said something about not being proud of being middle class. There is nothing to be ashamed of there dude like I said I grew up in a dump and then moved to an even shittier place and only recently got out and moved over to the west of the city. It may seem cooler or harder to live in the schemes but you can only take so many murders and **** before it starts getting to you.

    Dont be ashamed of who you are brother ! :good
     
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  9. coog

    coog Active Member Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Leonard was not poor growing up working class neighborhood. but not poor. No ghetto
     
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  10. MIK1000

    MIK1000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    cheers man but I'm not really ashamed I was just trying to portray that I was middleclass without sounding as though I was proud of it or felt superior thus not a dickhead. I think I'd rather have the connotations of a working class person though although I feel priveliged to have had a "shielded" upbringing.
     
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  11. MIK1000

    MIK1000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wasn't James Toney meant to be from a pretty good area despite being a drug dealer?
     
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  12. Alcaldemb

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    Actually Ali came up in a middle class background, that was always the irony of him making fun of Frazier for being an uncle Tom.
     
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  13. Thread Stealer

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    From what I've heard and read (in the book Dark Trade by Donald McRae), Toney didn't grow up in poverty. His mother owned a bakery in Ann Arbor and he didn't grow up hungry or broke.

    He would always get in trouble though, and had serious father issues. James's father left the family after shooting James's mother, and then went to prison for ****.

    What a piece of ****.
     
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  14. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    RIGHT .. pfft.. the hard streets of louisevill right?!?
     
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  15. Andre

    Andre BAD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Amir Khan.
     
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