Boxers have regressed a lot

bballchump knows his ****.

Excellent post.

 

Sergio Martinez came up the hard way

 

i'm more likely to agree with this. the 12 round limit has really changed boxing strategy.

 

Here are fights per year according to boxrec (2009 is incomplete). This shows that the 70's was a down era in terms of how many fights per year. I'm not going to debate the topic but it's easy to cherry pick top p4p fighters from another era and then compare then to mediocre fighters like Berto etc who were never real champions.

 

Just catching up with this thread. So I guess the 70s gen were full of bums according to the above statistics?

I don't mind giving credit to the ATG's and their incredible accomplishments but at the same time there is this militant hate for modern boxing by guys like Mike Silver who give almost zero respect to modern top fighters, it's very disrespectful. Guys like Hopkins, Jones Jr etc not competing in the 'golden age'?....please...if you want to be one of those fans then more power to you, nobody is forcing you to watch modern boxing. This debate is played out to the max.

 

Temperance is the key.

We shouldn't be stating that Mariusz Wach would knock Joe Louis out cold, but we also shouldn't be suggesting that Fritzie Zivic would have schooled Floyd Mayweather Jr. and shut him out fifteen zip.

 

Wow...that's a steep dropoff...

 

The cream of the crop is very solid, but not nearly as deep as 1982. JuanMa is at the tail end of his career and still #6. I'm not sure Wlad has pound for pound skills, he wins due to size advantages. Then again, heavyweights are always difficult to asses on a p4p level, Wlad is just an extreme example.

Also missing is consistent power. Ward, Dawson, and Bradley are not KO artists, Wlad is more of an attrition KO than a thudding puncher. Other eras have Julian Jackson and Thomas Hearns at the bottom of the rankings.

 

"Inactivity is the biggest sin in boxing "

Sugar Ray Leonard

 

damn good quote..

 

you're on record claiming that Lomachenko is the greatest boxer in the history of the world and would smoke SRR.

 

Another way to look at it; you see fighters trade punches repeatedly, which is impressive in its own way. You also see fighters hit an opponent and avoid getting hit themselves, which takes impressive skill. But how often have you seen today's fighters make each other miss consecutively like in Duran-Leonard, Toney-McCallum, and Whitaker-Chavez?

 

Good argument :good